Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I hope the Western news has some ex-Russian soldiers lined up to discuss what's happened anonymously with the reward being a significant financial settlement.

While we're at it, let's kidnap a few senior praporshchik and drop them off in Dagestan.
 
Russia giving an update on what they believe they have destroyed:

In total, 1502 military infrastructure facilities of Ukraine were disabled during the operation

Among them: 51 command posts and communication centers of the Ukrainian armed forces, 38 S-300, Buk M-1 and Osa anti-aircraft missile systems, 51 radar stations, 472 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 62 multiple launch rocket systems , 206 field artillery pieces and mortars, 336 units of special military vehicles, 46 unmanned aerial vehicles, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.
 
"Russia is expected to seize Kyiv in the next 4-6 weeks. The war overall is likely to last 10 or 15 or 20 years and “ultimately, Russia will lose” - US officials speaking to CBS and Congress"

Not sure I'd agree with that assessment - as long as the defenders are well prepared and willing they could hold Kyiv easily 4-6 weeks or more unless Russia commits far more to the fight. But on the other hand I don't see the war dragging out beyond maybe 2-3 years - once (if) the major urban areas are taken and larger organised military groups dispersed or defeated it will likely die down very quickly - much of those West leaning will then start to move out the country IMO with only a limited insurgency.

EDIT: The other option is they never fully take Kyiv and it turns into a protracted conflict zone without huge taking of territory by either side.

Putin wouldn't last that long in either case and whoever took over would have to have a far softer stance than him so would likley see a withdrawal as soon as Putin out the picture.
 
Ukraine has bank accounts for the support of their armed forces and now seemingly war bonds.

I'm sure you buy military bonds and also donate via btc?

Think the contracts are on the official twitter?

Yeah just wondering how they would actually use the funds effectively if donated directly or if a charity would be better.

Gone with the charity for now.
 
Not really is it? Russian politics has been known to be notoriously corrupt with many citizens not voting for Putin.

That's like saying if the Tories got us in a war that everyone who didn't vote for them somehow deserved this by proxy? Also , if the war wasn't on the manifesto why should the people who did vote them in be punished also?

Citizens being ruined for the actions of a few super wealthy is never a good thing.

Well of course not, but the West has scarcely any options that don't impact on the populace and honestly the extremity of it was probably the only way to get the rest of Europe out of their Kremlin-blind cages.

I certainly don't blame the Russian public for the invasion or any previous belligerence, but the fact remains that their apathy has created the foundation for such actions. Similarly in our own nation, whilst I could hardly have done anything about the Iraq war there's plenty of people who could have pressured the government into a different path, but they didn't and now a shadow has been cast that barely anyone can admit defending.
 
Well my assumption was that it is meant to directly support the UAF/volunteer families, but I guess there is chance of it being corruptly misappropriated elsewhere. It's a balance of trust that they'd not do that considering the mavity of the situation.
 
Russell Brand, professional contrarian, uncritically repeating Russia's lies about 'NATO expansion' while his subscribers drool over his every word. What an absolute flog.

:rolleyes:


I tried watching but it's so boring, he just beats around the bush - his mouth does a lot norm going but he doesn't actually say anything
 
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