Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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dowie said:
maybe the tail end of Cornwall too.

That's assuming the debate about "nuclear winter" vs "nuclear autumn" turns out to be like Ferguson's covid modeling on the nuclear winter side, because if not we're mostly all going to starve in the event of a massive exchange of weapons and what remains of humanity could easily be sent back several centuries in terms of development.
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With the likes of Culdrose probably not a great bet.

Most nuclear winter studies have serious flaws - such as assuming all bombs in an attack hit dense urban environments when in reality lots would be aimed at military and infrastructure locations which are often sparser.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Things are not looking too good in the south. It seems Ukraine has a lot of forces tied up defending the east and the capital.
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Well it could be where most of Ukraine's losses were felt, but honestly it may very well be a strategy to save assets/units from areas near Crimea where pro-Russian sentiment will be highest as there would be a lot of risk involved and so those units being moved to more sensible positions versus a superior force makes sense.

However, if/when they need to switch to a insurgency they'll have to learn how to keep communications up across the country when the police state begins (already beginning in occupied areas).
 
Hades said:
You could buy the following at B&Q which would help:

* Wood to board up windows
* White paint to help reflect the flash
* Wood to strengthen your shelter under the stairs (usually the safest part of a house)
* Bucket and sand to put out fires
* Bucket to hold water for drinking
* Shovels and crowbar to help extract yourself from a house that has collapsed around you
etc
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Once the nukes start flying, this ain't going to help. Just go drink that bottle of red wine you have kept for a special occasion and spend the final times with your loved ones. I guess B&Q could be useful for a corkscrew...
 
Ahleckz said:
Once the nukes start flying, this ain't going to help. Just go drink that bottle of red wine you have kept for a special occasion and spend the final times with your loved ones. I guess B&Q could be useful for a corkscrew...
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Lets be honest I don't think Putin is that insane, but it does make me quite uneasy that a.) either Ukraine will fall and we have to watch in horror as civilian bodies pile up or b.) WW3 as west get involved "unlikely" unless NATO attack first.
 
dave1983 said:
Lets be honest I don't think Putin is that insane, but it does make me quite uneasy that a.) either Ukraine will fall and we have to watch in horror as civilian bodies pile up or b.) WW3 as west get involved "unlikely" unless NATO attack first.
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Civilians can freely leave, the borders are open, we will not have a nuclear war over Ukraine.
 
dave1983 said:
Lets be honest I don't think Putin is that insane, but it does make me quite uneasy that a.) either Ukraine will fall and we have to watch in horror as civilian bodies pile up or b.) WW3 as west get involved "unlikely" unless NATO attack first.
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It will be a).
 
Roar87 said:
Civilians can freely leave, the borders are open, we will not have a nuclear war over Ukraine.
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Ukraine is a rather large country and I somehow doubt the petrol stations are being restocked, so how do propose people from the likes of Kharkiv get to Moldova or Poland? I think also the existential crisis of being unlucky for having tried to escaped just when Russian forces decides it doesn't like a particular building where such a person or persons happen to be next to might make it rather hard to leave the relative safety of a basement.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I watched that previous video, it's refreshing to hear smart and experienced people talk about this stuff, they also seem very calm about it all too.
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An hour spent watching that video is infinitely more valuable than an hour spent reading these threads! haha! Jokes...I love OcUK, obviously!
 
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*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: There Should Be a Set of Weapons Specified That Can Never Be Deployed in Ukraine – IFAX
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Moscow Is Ready to Discuss Ukraine’s President Zelenskiy’s Desire to Receive Security Guarantees
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: This Is a Positive Step
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Moscow’s Aim Is Demilitarisation of Ukraine but Ukrainians Must Decide on Their Own Leaders
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Kyiv Not Confirming 2nd Round Talks Yet:IFX
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Our Sovereignty Over Crimea Is Not an Issue for Discussion As It Is Part of Russia

Source:
https://twitter.com/MarketRebels/status/1499052769461866496
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1499053582489993224
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1499054545716011016
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1499053538802077705
https://twitter.com/DailyFXTeam/status/1499054891548876802
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1499054627660120065
 
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kola said:
I've got my swiss army knife ill be fine ;)
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sweet, can i hang with you till the it all passes over?

edit: just saw your location - screw that, you're on your own :p
TNA said:
Bunch of responses of it would be pointless, but I am not so sure. We could still have some basics in place.

I mean I assume there will be many places that will be outside of the blast zones and will survive that, but then be stuck inside for long periods of time due to the fallout.
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what and who is left will not be pleasant. there's not a plan you can put in place to prepare you for that despite what some of the more optimistic posters are saying. but if you are intent on making plans - weapons, food and medicine are your basics. get stocked up on plenty of all of those and maybe see if @kola will give you his swiss army knife (they won't get much use out of it) and you'll be golden, honest guv. :p
 
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