Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Quite a few rumours emerging that martial law could be implemented in Russia as early as tomorrow.
If they are going as far as martial law it means they have lost control

The Russian population must know more than we think they do. I suppose it's hard to keep real information secret in this age of technology so they are seeing through the state broadcast BS
 
If they are going as far as martial law it means they have lost control

The Russian population must know more than we think they do. I suppose it's hard to keep real information secret in this age of technology so they are seeing through the state broadcast BS

As much as anything the Russian population have a lot of concern about domestic issues (before these sanctions) and interest in war is at a probably all time low and won't be easily distracted from domestic concerns by war. Though many won't feel free to protest, etc. about it they'll be against war unless someone is directly attacking the country - a lot probably don't even care if it is Ukraine or somewhere else.

(Despite the claims by certain posters like Enkore).
 
This whole thread is interesting - expert commenting on maintenance of Russian vehicles, tires failing even on expensive equipment (air defence systems etc..) so god knows what has happened to the more regular vehicles. Perhaps explains why there is that big convoy (or multiple convoys) filling up the road to Kyiv and why they can't advance easily... blocking the road/taking down vehicles in various places means having to travel off-road and they can't easily do that! Yikes.



We're coming into muddy season now:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa
Rasputitsa (Russian: распу́тица, IPA: [rɐsˈputʲɪtsə]) is a Russian term for two seasons of the year, spring and autumn, when travel on unpaved roads or across country becomes difficult, owing to muddy conditions from rain or melting snow. "Rasputitsa" also refers to road conditions during both periods.[1]

The term is applied to muddy road conditions in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine, which are caused by the poor drainage of underlying clay-laden soils found in the region. Roads are subject to weight limitations and closures during the period in certain districts of Russia. The phenomenon was a hindrance in the early 20th century in the Soviet Union since 40% of rural villages were not served by paved roads.[1]
 
If they are going as far as martial law it means they have lost control

The Russian population must know more than we think they do. I suppose it's hard to keep real information secret in this age of technology so they are seeing through the state broadcast BS
It’s also likely they are expecting unrest as the financial situation gets a lot worse.
 
Not that a lot of people probably care for the truth but I wonder if this was a case of China: "If you are thinking of invading please wait until after the Olympics" or China: "Now you've let us know about your plans to invade please wait until after the Olympics":


We're coming into muddy season now:

Contrary to some, including experts, I've never considered winter a good time for Russian armour to operate in Ukraine - though the roads might freeze a lot of the country side, except in maybe some of the most exceptional winters, doesn't support Russian armour well never mind their general state of maintenance and serviceability in cold weather.
 
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Not that a lot of people probably care for the truth but I wonder if this was a case of China: "If you are thinking of invading please wait until after the Olympics" or China: "Now you've let us know about your plans to invade please wait until after the Olympics":


See here:

 
Doesn't really clear it up - it wasn't difficult for those observing what was going on to have a pretty good idea the chances for an invasion was high - and it makes a big difference in the level of complicity China had in respect to its request.

No idea, China are confusing me during all this quite frankly, not taking sides only makes me think more sinister things are round the corner.

Total speculation, but my guess was China was consulted at some level over the plans.
 
Not that a lot of people probably care for the truth but I wonder if this was a case of China: "If you are thinking of invading please wait until after the Olympics" or China: "Now you've let us know about your plans to invade please wait until after the Olympics":


That's interesting, there was some speculation that he'd not want to upset Xi again re: the olympics and so would wait.

Contrary to some, including experts, I've never considered winter a good time for Russian armour to operate in Ukraine - though the roads might freeze a lot of the country side, except in maybe some of the most exceptional winters, doesn't support Russian armour well never mind their general state of maintenance and serviceability in cold weather.

To be clear, muddy season is spring and autumn not winter, terrain is likely going to be even worse for them as we go into March, they were clearly hoping for a quick capitulation by Ukraine and being able to send most of their forces in unopposed via roads etc..
 
To be clear, muddy season is spring and autumn not winter, terrain is likely going to be even worse for them as we go into March, they were clearly hoping for a quick capitulation by Ukraine and being able to send most of their forces in unopposed via roads etc..

I know - as per my posts way back IMO the window would be more late summer than risking the muddy season or the average Ukraine winter.
 
I know - as per my posts way back IMO the window would be more late summer than risking the muddy season or the average Ukraine winter.

Nah, he'd have probably preferred earlier in winter, but as per the China request was happy to delay it, obvs just assumed it would run rather more smoothly than it did!
 
No idea, China are confusing me during all this quite frankly, not taking sides only makes me think more sinister things are round the corner.

Total speculation, but my guess was China was consulted at some level over the plans.

Hopefully not something more sinister - a possibility but I think we'd see that coming if for instance they were trying to bait the US and NATO into a larger engagement.

I think as much as anything it doesn't look like China is anything like ready for something like an invasion of Taiwan or a more confrontational posture with the US and instead biding their time.

Nah, he'd have probably preferred earlier in winter, but as per the China request was happy to delay it, obvs just assumed it would run rather more smoothly than it did!

This year has not been a good one if wanting a hard freeze in Ukraine. The weather has largely been quite mild with blips of cold rather than settling into a longer cold.
 
If they are going as far as martial law it means they have lost control

The Russian population must know more than we think they do. I suppose it's hard to keep real information secret in this age of technology so they are seeing through the state broadcast BS
I hope so but you might be surprised at how brain washed some of the Russian population is and support Putin in spite of some of the terrible things he does. (a bit like Trump in the U.S).

We have a good friend who is from the Russian part of Latvia - Latvia is similar to Ukraine in that the far east of the country is where the ethnic Russians tend to live and the city of Daugavpils in the east, where she is from, is pretty much all Russian speaking. All their TV and news is from Russia, so no surprise that she was quite a fan of Putin. It wasn't until she started living in England, where she got more 'balanced' information that she realised how distorted Russian TV actually is.

She is decidedly no longer a fan of Putin, quite the opposite.

The problem I fear in Russia is that even if you hate what Putin is doing and the effect his actions are now having on you, who can you protest to? If you are a dissenting voice then you can easily end up in jail or worse. They don't have the freedoms we have.

There is a saying in Latvian; "neko darit" which seems to be borne of their Soviet occupation and basically means "there's nothing you can do about it". This seems to be the attitude among many Russians, which along with their general attitude of cynicism is why I think Putin might be around much longer than we want.
 
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As i said they were played by the Chinese over the last 10 years. Chinese played the US as well.

You say that, but now the West has an existential antagonist which was largely missing after the USSR collapsed, I'm sure there's plenty of people in Washington that do not see it as failure.
 
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