Quite enjoyed that.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
- Thread starter areksnumbr1sxylady
- Start date
- Status
So Russia would see NATO as a threat but not an EU army - says everything about an EN army...
The US isn't in the EU. So of course Russia would be less worried by an EU army. But, in my opinion, the EU will get closer integration over the coming decades and could well be a superpower in the future.
Actually, it makes no difference to the UK if an EU Army comes to fruition. We ain't there.
yes they do, but generally laced with polonium or Novichok
Plus it wouldn’t be good to be dragged into an EU war with Russia when Putin starts picking off non-NATO members.
ooof, anyone tuning in?
Russian schoolchildren to learn about war's 'necessity'
Russia's education ministry has announced that schoolchildren throughout the nation will be given a virtual lesson on "why the liberation mission in Ukraine is a necessity".
The broadcasted instruction will take place at 12:00 Moscow time (09:00GMT) on Thursday.
Viewers will be taught "about the danger Nato represents to our country" and "why Russia stood up for the protection of the civilians of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics".
A statement on the ministry's Facebook page said children will also learn "how to distinguish the truth from lies in the huge stream of information, photos and videos that are flooding the internet today".
So in 18 years time you have Russian Nationalists voting for the Russian Nationalists and being ready to fight and die for the cause.
Soldato
- Joined
- 4 Aug 2007
- Posts
- 22,397
- Location
- Wilds of suffolk
Yeah i think if anything we are seeing that sped up by the russia events
It seems inevitable that the EU create an independent military - before it would have been a vanity project, but now?
Though who controls it and are the member states willing to cede more control to Brussels?
Conservatives OUT. They are a security risk.
Perhaps a law against political party donations from people or institutions with people that have not been UK citizens for 30 years?
I'd say that Russia should be very worried about an EU army. It would be far superior in all respects, except maybe numbers, but that clearly doesn't matter. The US needs to be careful, because they want Europe to stand on it's own two feet and "pay their own way" (Trump pushing for us to spend more on NATO, for example) but then in doing so, uncle Sam relinquishes a lot of control and knowing them, they'll probably see us as a perceived threat too.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 8 Jan 2004
- Posts
- 32,894
- Location
- Rutland
Just a cut and paste, sorry:
"Article 42.7 obliges EU countries to aid a fellow member state that becomes “the victim of armed aggression on its territory” by “all the means in their power”. This formulation is reminiscent of the better-known Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which calls on NATO member states to assist a party being attacked “by taking forthwith … such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force”."
Soldato
- Joined
- 22 Feb 2010
- Posts
- 5,264
- Location
- Southampton
This seems to be pretty insightful about the convoy etc
Soldato
- Joined
- 4 Aug 2007
- Posts
- 22,397
- Location
- Wilds of suffolk
It really depends if your only capable of looking at a micro level or you want to look wider
Considering the vast majority of Eu countries are also NATO its far more likely that any significant operations if they were to take place with Europe would be led by the EU as opposed to NATO, with NATO support as opposed to NATO leading
We have seen in other theatres that they try to use more local troops so it would be natural that a fully functional significant EU army would take the lead role
Imagine it would work essentially like how NATO does now, it would allow the US to shift focus almost entirely towards the Pacific and it would hopefully mean better bargaining power for each nation when it comes to arms manufacture.
If Russia doesn't see an EU army as a threat now or in the future what good would it be to protecting any extra countries that want to join the EU?
Plus joining the EU takes years and if Russia did see an EU army as a threat how would that be any different to joining NATO in terms of stopping pre-emptive invasions?
ooof, anyone tuning in?
Russian schoolchildren to learn about war's 'necessity'
Russia's education ministry has announced that schoolchildren throughout the nation will be given a virtual lesson on "why the liberation mission in Ukraine is a necessity".
The broadcasted instruction will take place at 12:00 Moscow time (09:00GMT) on Thursday.
Viewers will be taught "about the danger Nato represents to our country" and "why Russia stood up for the protection of the civilians of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics".
A statement on the ministry's Facebook page said children will also learn "how to distinguish the truth from lies in the huge stream of information, photos and videos that are flooding the internet today".
Sounds a bit Hitler youth to me
- Status