Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Ahleckz said:
My late father who passed away in 2015 married a Ukrainian who was a university professor in Kyiv. They lived together in Scotland at his death but soon afterwards she moved back to Kyiv and the relationship between her and I broke down and we had no further contact.
It doesn't sound like the current rules that the government have in terms of visas would support her in coming back to the UK, and I have no idea if she would - they lived in Prague before returning here so he could have treatment for his illness but there wasn't the plan to reside here indefinitely.
I've found her on Facebook and her current job is listed as working for the British Council. I've reached out to her to see if there's anything that I can do to help. I'm not really expecting a response, but I think it's important to do what I reasonably can. If I do, and if appropriate, I'll update the thread.
I first met her in a bar in Kyiv where she was celebrating the end of the academic year with her students, and they were a lovely welcoming bunch and I was shown a great city by great people. Very sad.
I should have probably reached out earlier than today, and I can only hope that her and her two adult kids are well.
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Kudos to you for reaching out! Putting aside old enmities will probably be much easier for you than her. Let's hope she's able to respond and that you can assist in some way.
 
MartinPrince said:
What the hell's wrong with you? As shown, your statement was simply wrong and erroneous and now you are trying to go down some other off tangent rabbit hole, differentiating between cities and provincial areas? :confused::cry:

You're very much on your own their mate, I won't reply to you again.

I just hope the poor Ukrainians fleeing what must be a desperate situation find safe harbour be it the UK or which ever country.
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https://www.thelocal.fr/20191105/why-the-french-are-getting-a-bit-better-at-speaking-english/

Weird, this source supports my assertion...

:cry::cry::confused::confused::cry::cry::confused::confused:

I can post faces too!
 
dowie said:
Great to see the news of 30 aircraft destroyed! Well done Ukrainian marines.

Seems their (presumably land-based) Naval forces have had a blinder too and sunk a Russian ship too!!!!! (I guess their anti-shipping missiles and maybe some assistance with surveillance/reconnaissance or indeed their own drones has helped there)
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Impressive, got more information on that?
 
dowie said:
Seems their (presumably land-based) Naval forces have had a blinder too and sunk a Russian ship too!!!!! (I guess their anti-shipping missiles and maybe some assistance with surveillance/reconnaissance or indeed their own drones has helped there)
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Hysterically, it was a GRAD launcher that the Russians had abandoned elsewhere. Bizarre that such legacy crap could nail such an advanced ship, but theoretically it was just overwhelmed by the shear number of them.
 
Patrol ships like that don't have the automatic CIWS (close-in weapons system) AFAIK which could otherwise defend against inbound missiles.
 
dowie said:
It was actually Grad/MLRS apparently and a patrol ship (quite a new one).


The aircraft were ones Russia (perhaps overconfidently) had moved forward into an airport in occupied Ukrainian territory near Kherson, they were apparently destroyed in a nighttime raid by Ukrainian marines:

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Wow, keeps up with the theme, underestimated Ukraine, overestimated Russia.

However I will say without state of the art intel most of this would not be happening.
 
gizmoy2k said:
Russia I doubt will back down on the request not to join Nato/EU, its the primary reason all of this has happened.

In turn Nato/EU need to accept this and will beef up the defences in the east of existing territories.
Ukraine will be the buffer zone, the moment for any other solution disappeared when Putin crossed the border.

There has to be an acceptance on all side that nothing will return to how it was
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What happens when Russia attacks a buffer zone with beefed up defences?
 
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dLockers said:
Bizarre that such legacy crap could nail such an advanced ship, but theoretically it was just overwhelmed by the shear number of them.
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well I mean, to be fair, its a pitch black video, so doesnt really actually show a ship being hit, or indeed sunk. Like most things "posted" in war, its best to wait for actual confirmation of fact than assume it simply is fact.
 
dLockers said:
Hysterically, it was a GRAD launcher that the Russians had abandoned elsewhere. Bizarre that such legacy crap could nail such an advanced ship, but theoretically it was just overwhelmed by the shear number of them.
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Big ol’ Area of effect and a bit of luck. Love the sound or surprise when they realise they scored a hit
 
dLockers said:
Hysterically, it was a GRAD launcher that the Russians had abandoned elsewhere. Bizarre that such legacy crap could nail such an advanced ship, but theoretically it was just overwhelmed by the shear number of them.
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I thought about that as well, well played russian friends :D
 
Tombstone said:
well I mean, to be fair, its a pitch black video, so doesnt really actually show a ship being hit, or indeed sunk. Like most things "posted" in war, its best to wait for actual confirmation of fact than assume it simply is fact.
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Lucky I am not in the press office then isn't it lol.
 
dLockers said:
Lucky I am not in the press office then isn't it lol.
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Lucky that most twitter/youtube posts arent in either sides press offices :D

One thing that certainly has come about from this war is that some people will have got a huge boost in the number of subscribers to their social media accounts !
 
Jono8 said:
If Ukraine get get it down to simply losing crimea and recognising the separatist regions as independent + EU but not NATO membership, I think that might be worth considering.

It's still **** , but could save a lot of bloodshed, and years of war and turmoil.
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Yup... possibly even just EU membership and absolutely no more interference/incursions... need peacekeepers to separate the separatist regions.

Realistically they're probably going to have to give up those + Crimea, they're almost certainly not getting Crimea back as the local population there is pro-Russian, even though the otherwise previously pro-Russian population in other parts of Ukraine are now rather anti-Russian/pro-Ukrainian.

If they can agree to that and Russia gets a reality check in that the population has almost fully turned against them (the political people they sent in have since retreated to Russia in shock) they're going to have to suck it up and realise Ukraine has turned to the west now and the more aggression from Russia the more they'll solidify that positon.

Putin's "wins" to take back to the Russian population will have to just be annexing the separatist bits and some claim he's gotten rid of the nazis or something... Ideally, though Putin is gone and a new regime gets those "wins".
 
Firestar_3x said:
Wow, keeps up with the theme, underestimated Ukraine, overestimated Russia.

However I will say without state of the art intel most of this would not be happening.
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Yep, they've had a complete overhaul of their armed forces too - lots of training from the West - IIRC the Royal Marines have trained Ukrainian marines etc.. so nighttime commando style raids like that are great to see!
 
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