Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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NinjaCool said:
McDonalds own most of their stores in Russia but KFC and Pizza Hut are owned by franchisees so that does limit what they can do.
Maybe they could donate a good chunk of their royalties to humanitarian efforts in Ukraine or something.
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That's an interesting question, as a franchisee, you still have to use company branding and use approved company supplies of ingredients etc, you can't just choose a different supplier to buy your chicken nuggets from, for example. A bit like running a pub that's not a free house, you have to buy your stock from the company, or at least via the company so they still get thier cut..
 
Minstadave said:
Barbaric violation of your territory you say? How could they keep a straight face whilst putting out this statement? Atleast the Irish truck didn't break down so not entirely similar to the Ukraine invasion I guess!
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They should stop complaining they got off lightly the british embassy was burnt down to the ground in the 70's...

Alice In Wonderland said:
Seems our government are putting beaurecracy ahead of being decent humans with compassion.
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They're leaving room for the 60,000+ illegals thats are expected to land on our beaches this year...
 
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Foreign fighters turning up to help now, not sure having flags on your uniform is a good idea though. Will likely be used as propaganda in Russia.
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They should definitely remove their insignia if they are not fighting officially on behalf of their nation. Absolutely agree with you.
 
Minstadave said:
I'm not sure what youre trying to show? The Ruble plummeting in value compared to the Hryvynia doesn't mean they're going to be getting air defenses into encircled cities. The Russian are employing siege tactics to encircle and cut off supplies, they'll try and starve the Ukranians out.
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The graph looks exactly the same when you compare Ruble to USD, YEN, EUR, etc. The Ruble has lost circa 40% of its value in the last ten days and isn't showing any signs of leveling out.

So I suppose what i'm trying to show is the russians will be lesser able to provide front line logistics and resupply lines, the longer the currency is in freefall, the weaker they will become. Ukraine could quite easily starve out the russian occupation, the way I see it.
 
Minstadave said:
Seems a very simplistic view of a complex situation but you do you.
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I get the propaganda angle of brave Ukrainians dieing under murderous Russian onslaught rather than escape to safety with the enemy. I just think it’s a bit crap of your own government to decide your sacrifice is ok.
 
Custor said:
I get the propaganda angle of brave Ukrainians dieing under murderous Russian onslaught rather than escape to safety with the enemy. I just think it’s a bit crap of your own government to decide your sacrifice is ok.
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How do you know they're escaping to safety? They are 'escaping' to the country they are at war with.
 
Uther said:
NATO has done no fly zones before to protect a population.
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It will NEVER happen.

Simply because of this fact, the first stage of any no fly zone is to decimate any enemy anti aircraft defences on the ground.

You cannot try to enforce no fly zone, if your planes are in any kind of danger.

That will mean deliberately attacking Russian forces.

NATO will not do that, as it will start WW3.
 
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Surely the responsibility of our government is to protect the people of this country, that combined with the fact that NATO is a defense force ultimately means that we'll never get involved in implementing a no-fly zone, as it would involve direct conflict with Russia, and ultimate escalation.

I don't see a problem with supplying lethal aid and money to Ukraine and helping them indirectly, but we can't have western forces take on Russia directly - unless they attack a NATO country directly.
 
mattyfez said:
So I suppose what i'm trying to show is the russians will be lesser able to provide front line logistics and resupply lines, the longer the currency is in freefall, the weaker they will become. Ukraine could quite easily starve out the russian occupation, the way I see it.
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Not entirely sure where the link is between the currency and the Russian military although they seem to be struggling with logistics, especially without decent rail links, regardless.

mattyfez said:
Because politically speaking, that's tantamount to Nato member countries declaring open war with russia, i.e. WWIII. That's basically the second to last strategy that will be used, nuclear bombs being the last strategy.
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Sure and said as much a few posts beforehand :)

Uther said:
Russian oil phased out by the end of the year in the UK:
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-us-preparing-to-ban-imports-of-russian-oil-reports-12560703
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Good; although wasn't our reliance on Russian oil and gas fairly low any way? :confused:
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Lets hope we can prepare before Russia decides to cut the plug before then. We should never have depended on them in the first place.
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Russia isn't going to pull the plug; they need the West buying their fossil fuels much more than the West needs those fossil fuels. Russia's economy is already a complete dumpster fire.
 
visibleman said:
Not entirely sure where the link is between the currency and the Russian military
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the army needs food, not just bullets, the food has to come from russian factories and farms, and then be delivered to the front lines. that will likely go bust soon, (farmers need paying, and they are paid in rubles which are worth 40% less than they were 1 week ago. that's the link, if you bankrupt the country, they'll be in no position for a protracted offensive against Ukraine.

If you had a business and your costs went up 40% overnight, how long do you think you would stay in business? you still need to pay your workers and buy raw materials.

visibleman said:
Good; although wasn't our reliance on Russian oil and gas fairly low any way? :confused:
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For the UK, gas is circa 5% russian, but germany is more like circa 40%. Dunno about crude oil though. But for 'super internaltional' companies like shell, they are kind of above invividual countries laws and can operate with reletive inpunity, much like facebook, google, etc. So Shell pulling out is a really big signal.
 
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