Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:

Appears to be an NLAW in action.

Scary that even a couple of light soldiers on foot with an AT weapon of that nature can significantly impact a mechanised column, even if not decisive - if they can keep up hit and run attacks like that with minimal losses it would have a serious demoralising effect.

Shame the first launch seemed to malfunction or hit something in the treeline short of activation range.
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I like how the probably wounded Russian who collapsed on the road was just left and had to drag himself off.
 
Mr Jack said:
I too get most of my knowledge of farming from Harry's Farm :p
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He is a great presenter and thoroughly interesting chap :)

Mr Jack said:
I'm not worried at a personal, or even national, level but poor people and countries are going to suffer.
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I can certainly see it having a destabilising effect on poorer countries and worsening refugee/economic migrant situations.

Mr Jack said:
Better get on with building those raised beds I've been failing to get around to for those past two years ;)
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Chop chop :p I used to have an allotment close to my house that I kept for a couple of years beyond my interest in home grown had passed. I thought that if the poop really hit the fan it would be useful. In reality if I was in the situation of having to grow my own potatoes I wouldn't be able to afford to live near the allotments anyway. The same would probably be true for you and your raised beds!
 
wordy said:
France, Germany, Britain & Poland should seize Kaliningrad, then when Lavarov bitches about it to the UN we should say you can have it back when you **** off out of Ukraine, Then when they do we move a load of troops into Crimea & Donbas and they say yeah we're gonna keep Kaliningrad now.

Bet Putin bottles it.
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Surely that wouldn't work for the same reason that those countries aren't entering Ukraine (because it could start a much larger war).
 
wordy said:
France, Germany, Britain & Poland should seize Kaliningrad, then when Lavarov bitches about it to the UN we should say you can have it back when you **** off out of Ukraine, Then when they do we move a load of troops into Crimea & Donbas and they say yeah we're gonna keep Kaliningrad now.

Bet Putin bottles it.
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you do realise there are nukes there right?
 
mccarf said:
Surely that wouldn't work for the same reason that those countries aren't entering Ukraine (because it could start a much larger war).
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After a couple of months under a western administration they'll realise how **** life under Putin was and want to remain part of the free world. Tellin' ya.
 
wordy said:
Yep.
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so you want to invade somewhere defended by 25k+ troops that has s-400 AA and short range nuclear weapons? and expect putin to do nothing back when it's guaranteed to be a red line?

It's like Putin invading Gibraltar and expecting us to do nothing, except Gibraltar probably has barely any defences.

Probably better off massing an Army on the Belarus border, by the sounds of it they would welcome us with open arms
 
arknor said:
so you want to invade somewhere defended by 25k+ troops that has s-400 AA and short range nuclear weapons? and expect putin to do nothing back when it's guaranteed to be a red line?

It's like Putin invading Gibraltar and expecting us to do nothing, except Gibraltar probably has barely any defences
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He'll bottle it.
 
wordy said:
He'll bottle it.
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or launch a small nuke at the north sea or somewhere and we would watching a bunch of wind farms or oil rigs burn.
There must be loads of small airbases like Ascension islands dotted around that putin could just throw nukes at and claim they are legit military targets if you try and invade Russian territory.
I don't think he cares if it's connected to mother Russia directly or not.

Better to just rush into Ukraine and capture whats left before he can, or take Belarus who don't like their leader anyway.
 
Roar87 said:
Trump wanted NATO to be properly funded by the European states who neglected to do that, he called out Germany for failing to pay for their own defense by only putting 1.5% of their GDP into it while simultaneously buying oil from Russia, they have now upped their defence spending and stopped buying Russian oil - only since Russia invaded Ukraine. T
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chroniclard said:
Fake news. Stop making things up.
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Yes Chroniclard, stop making things up, its just sad.

As distasteful as you may see it, Trump was right to insist that NATO increase spending even if how he went about making his demands may have been wrong. I mean but it's a huge shame that it's taken a Russian invasion with all the associated civilian deaths for NATO to finally see some sense, maybe they should have listened to him earlier as distasteful as it may have been. However for Macron/Merkel it was easier to just scream Orange Man Bad than it was to admit to a fault which has left most of the West European NATO countries far behind the curve and with weaker militaries because of that.
 
Fourstar said:
@Freakbro, @Mr Jack

Just been catching up with Harry's Farm on YT and he talks about fertiliser costs on his farm. On average he used to spend around £25,000, this year is £42,000 and if he were to order now for next year £100,000. That is for the same acreage and crops.

He raises the point what price must wheat be to support that fertiliser price, not to mention fuel and all the other inputs also going up. Is it worth the risk for farmers and are banks willing to lend that amount against what is a fairly risky venture anyway?

Just after 4 mins in.
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A couple of farmers our way are taking bank loans, it's crazy.

Spot price on fert yesterday broke the £1000 / ton (£1,027) normal price is ~£150. So that made our decision for us, no fert for us and we'll get what we get yield wise. As I mentioned previously we grow hay for our livery, not food crops, but because of these costs I'm changing the business model from hay/straw being included in the fees to now they'll have to source their own. This should hedge the risk for us and we'll just have to see what price it is this time next year.
 
Roar87 said:
I don't need to disprove someone's personal opinion lacking evidence that addressed none of the content of my post, there was nothing to disprove. Did you disagree with what I said? You just said Orange man bad essentially
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Trump questioned the point of the US being in NATO many times, his own NSA said he wanted to pull out of NATO and had to be persuaded not to, though he is convinced he would have pulled out in a second term. He lobbied for Russia to be allowed back into the G8 on numerous occasions, even saying he would invite him to the G7 against the wishes of the other leaders. He pulled the US out of the Open Skies Treaty.
It’s not just that orange man bad, though he is in just about every measurable way, it’s that he weakened the alliances that had been in place for decades.
 
Entai said:
You guarantee that enough to be on the front line waiting to see if he does or not ?
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You seem certain that anything stronger than harsh language will result in Nuclear Holocaust. You guarantee that enough to start living in a Nuclear Bunker?

arknor said:
or launch a small nuke at the north sea or somewhere and we would watching a bunch of wind farms or oil rigs burn.
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Meh.

arknor said:
Better... take Belarus who don't like their leader anyway
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Good point. Off Belarus's leader, then start funding the opposition. Russia is too busy getting Nlawed in the face to send any troops there. God I can almost hear the freedom!
 
Would Putin really play with his nuclear aresnal, he like most of us, still have a family to look after, raise and love. He knows what pressing the red button would do.
 
Magic_x_uk said:
Would Putin really play with his nuclear aresnal, he like most of us, still have a family to look after, raise and love. He knows what pressing the red button would do.
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He apparently moved them to a bunker (Altayskoye Podvorie resort in the Altai Mountains), i presume they are still in it.
 
Magic_x_uk said:
Would Putin really play with his nuclear aresnal, he like most of us, still have a family to look after, raise and love. He knows what pressing the red button would do.
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Depends on who you ask. @Entai has spent this entire thread guarenteeing it would happen if we do so much as send a rude letter to Putin. Others not so much.
 
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