Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Freakbro said:
But we've been the US lap dog for a long time, that must count for something!
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Hehe not likely- there's no money to be made.

The EU now presents the US with a prime oil/gas/defence market. All shrink-wrapped with their governments bending over to approve funding. Putin's managed to make his border neighbours arm up - so he can sell that to validate his own funding requirements to the Russian populous.

The UK is more of a strategic partner - intelligence and defence production plus being an island makes a great B52 capable aircraft carrier.. There's certainly no commercial desire to bend to the UK-only ring-fenced market.
 
NickK said:
Biden is doing a lot as world stage statesman - same as Xi. I see that Boris has fallen into irrelevance and bluff as the EU leaders are finally starting to wake up to their real responsibilities. The US probably trusts the UK more than EU states but that may change over the next few years.
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To be honest I disagree, I think the US are starting to see the EU as more reliable, his first phone call is usually to Macron or Scholtz, not Boris
 
NickK said:
Hehe not likely- there's no money to be made.

The EU now presents the US with a prime oil/gas/defence market. All shrink-wrapped with their governments bending over to approve funding. Putin's managed to make his border neighbours arm up - so he can sell that to validate his own funding requirements to the Russian populous.

The UK is more of a strategic partner - intelligence and defence production plus being an island makes a great B52 capable aircraft carrier.. There's certainly no commercial desire to bend to the UK-only ring-fenced market.
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The EU and the US has a pretty strong defence market is a it is. I'm guessing the money will get spread around. France in particular tends to buy from within.
 
*Turkish Foreign Minister: Russia’s Putin and Ukraine’s Zelenskiy Need to Meet.
*Turkish Foreign Minister: More than 100 Turkish Citizens Remain in Mariupol
https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1504452374945013763 - 'Our hope for a ceasefire has increased a little more'
https://twitter.com/ntvradyo/status/1504451862770114574

FOCx-oOXMAU-nRE

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504398200324734978

Don't think anyone posted this today.
 
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chrismscotland said:
To be honest I disagree, I think the US are starting to see the EU as more reliable, his first phone call is usually to Macron or Scholtz, not Boris
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Well Macron and Scholz are the two largest (and some say defacto power base) in the EU. Macron is (IIRC) still the EU president in the rotation.

I suspect that politically - Biden would, without a invasion, be a target for the republicans if he cosied up to a socialist and a social democrat.

From an nautical intelligence perspective UK, Finland and Australia have been close allies to the US. From a land perspective I think you're right that now defence radars etc will become more common in the border states the immediate intelligence partnerships will grow. However from a technology leak perspective, the US is probably less certain of EU/AUS than the UK but not by much given the Russian influence in the UK political system.

France withdrew from the joint forces aspect of NATO, hence there's always been distrust between the two from Degall's time onwards.
 
NickK said:
I found Indians to be patriotic, respecting of entrepreneurial spirit and a passion/spirit that could put the UK to shame. They are chaotic, an accepted necessary response to getting things done in an overly bureaucratic environment (another UK-ism) is to bypass things.
Needless to say India remembers and will quite rightly point at the UK being a failing future economy and they should mind their own business.

I suspect the RU-IN-CN-SA pact is going to continue to build integral ties and trade. Even if that means turning a blind eye as long as it's beneficial. I suspect India will find though that technologies in the defence area will end up being less available as India will continue to extend the relationship with RU w.r.t weapons development but at the same time they will attempt no to become reliant on India.
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What a joke.Who cares what you found.

What a childish and baseless diatribe. Grow up. Love the way you effectively agreed with their corruption btw.

India had a chance to stand up for what is right and NO ONE is looking at India for any kind of economic or cultural leadership and this issue has only hurt that cause.

and btw the UK is no more "failing" economically than our nearest European equivalents and Indians still scrabble to leave India not least for the UK with good reason. You clearly are also ignorant of the fact that India, with 16 times the population still has a smaller economy than the UK and can only dream of the UKs per capita wealth (which is what matters). When push comes to shove India still grapples with diseases the west left behind decades ago and can't stop it's citizens defacating in the street FFS.

Just be quiet.
 
Mr Jack said:
Subtitled version of Putin's recent speech:


Disturbing stuff.
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Yup. Trying to set some Oligarchs up as enemies etc.. ready to heap further blame on them if necessary + provides scapegoats for the economy, any skilled/vaguely wealthy people fleeing are "traitors", any move by the Army or others to overthrow him could be resisted by portions of the population as Putin said that the "traitors" might act on behalf of the West etc..
 
0007 said:
FOCx-oOXMAU-nRE

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1504398200324734978

Don't think anyone posted this today.
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Unfortunately looks like Russia is now backfilling replacements for these losses from their regular forces.

Also this:


(I think people are reading this wrong - it is what they are bringing back which is interesting not the outgoing flight - many of these are regular routes for those aircraft. Though there also seems to be a lot of probably rich and famous fleeing Moscow)
 
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bingham67 said:
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I guess the Turkish drones are largely pieced together with commercially available components anyway - IIRC at one point, they were buying civilian engines from some Western country before they found out and the Turkish company had to switch to domestically produced ones.

But with other stuff like the NLAW (which I believe at least one has fallen into Russian hands) and then more modern things like starstreak I guess there is a risk of Russians copying the tech. Obviously, they're perfectly capable of building an anti-tank or air defence weapon already but presumably, the specifics of the implementation of these things will, unfortunately, be helpful to them if captured.
 
Superficial said:
What a joke.Who cares what you found.

What a childish and baseless diatribe. Grow up. Love the way you effectively agreed with their corruption btw.

India had a chance to stand up for what is right and NO ONE is looking at India for any kind of economic or cultural leadership and this issue has only hurt that cause.

and btw the UK is no more "failing" economically than our nearest European equivalents and Indians still scrabble to leave India not least for the UK with good reason. You clearly are also ignorant of the fact that India, with 16 times the population still has a smaller economy than the UK and can only dream of the UKs per capita wealth (which is what matters). When push comes to shove India still grapples with diseases the west left behind decades ago and can't stop it's citizens defacating in the street FFS.

Just be quiet.
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haha!! Superb and true in equal measure.
 
sanaxe1 said:
Declaring doesn't mean jack. For example America hasn't declared war since WW2.
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Declaring stands for a lot. Let's put it another way then, where have the government declared that measures are in place to restrict freedoms due to a state of war?
 
The USA and the rest of NATO arent doing this just for Ukrain, although they are doing a great job keeping them armed and effective.

You have to remember where all these missiles and bullets are going, right into the bodies and armour of a long, long time enemy Russia.

The Ukranians are doing brilliant job of it but for every tank destroyed is one less the NATO have to worry about. We have had the smouldering relationship with Russia ever since the Berlin wall went up.

Nato will see these munitions going exactly where they are supposed to be going but NATO doesn't have to fire them.

A bit more complicated than that but weakening Russia like they are is a Dream come true for us.
 
bris said:
The USA and the rest of NATO arent doing this just for Ukrain, although they are doing a great job keeping them armed and effective.

You have to remember where all these missiles and bullets are going, right into the bodies and armour of a long, long time enemy Russia.

The Ukranians are doing brilliant job of it but for every tank destroyed is one less the NATO have to worry about. We have had the smouldering relationship with Russia ever since the Berlin wall went up.

Nato will see these munitions going exactly where they are supposed to be going but NATO doesn't have to fire them.

A bit more complicated than that but weakening Russia like they are is a Dream come true for us.
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how Russia can’t see this is beyond me. There is simply no tangible victory for Russia here as the economic damage will be massive. It’s just such a waste of life
 

More metal for the scrap dealers this time around Kerson airport. It seems even thought the Russian's have took the city they are unable to secure the area which might explain why their army has stalled and come to a halt in the last few days.
 
Global food supplies are really going to come under immense pressure this year.

Those developing countries who supported or abstained at the UN with mostly a "it's too far away to be of our concern" shrug obviously either didn't think things through or don't care about their poor getting poorer or starving.

As for India and it's tip-toeing because Russia sells them weapons? Well, even if the Indian government only cares about it's military and doesn't care about its poor: this war hasn't exactly shown Russian weapons in a favourable light. Never mind sanctions, Russian weapons exporters would have had orders way down even without them.
 
Dis86 said:
Declaring stands for a lot. Let's put it another way then, where have the government declared that measures are in place to restrict freedoms due to a state of war?
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Well besides the sanctions I suspect there's now an immense amount of suspicion about possible agents of the Kremlin, what do you think will happen if one of them commits an act of sabotage?

Do you think the government will just sit on it's hands risking the public's permanent ire?
 
StriderX said:
Well besides the sanctions I suspect there's now an immense amount of suspicion about possible agents of the Kremlin, what do you think will happen if one of them commits an act of sabotage?

Do you think the government will just sit on it's hands risking the public's permanent ire?
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Again, where have they declared measures are in place?
 
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