Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Washout]

Also BREAKING NEWS Russia has lost according to OCUK forum user washout

Well they can’t win, their economy is in free fall, their military is decimated all in three weeks. You call that a win do you?

 

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Past 1h 35mins: ~mostly in order, tried to keep stuff grouped

*Xi-Biden Call Has Started – Chinese State Media
*U.S. Deputy Secretary of State: China Must Realize That Its Future Is with Us, Europe and Developed Countries
*U.S. Deputy Secretary of State: Ready to Impose Sanctions on China If It Supports Russia

*Russian President Vladimir Putin Will Deliver a Speech Shortly on the Occasion of the Anniversary of the Annexation of Crimea
*Russia’s Putin Appears at Moscow’s Luzhniki Stadium, Hails Russia’s “Special Operation” in Ukraine
*Russian President Vladimir Putin: We Have Done a Lot to Improve the Situation of People in Crimea
*Putin: The Goal of Our Military Operation in Ukraine Is to Protect Against Putschists and Neo-Nazis
*Putin: The Purpose of Our Military Operation Is to Protect the People of Donbass from Genocide
*Russian State TV Suddenly Cuts Away from Putin Speaking at Packed Stadium and Shows Patriotic Songs Being Played at Event

*Rally in Moscow in Support of the Russian Army Exceeded 200K
*Russian Forces & DPR Fully Take Control of Mariupol Airport
*Russia Transferred U.S. Dollars to Settle Its Eurobond Coupons
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1504829905791602694

*Russian Central Bank Governor: New Predictions Will Be Presented in April.
*Russian Central Bank Governor: In the Coming Quarters, GDP Will Shrink.
*Russian Central Bank Governor: We Suspended Trading on Moscow Exchange to Avoid Rapid Moves
*Russian Central Bank Governor: We Are Ready to Gradually Resume Trading on Moscow Exchange

Spoiler: Russian exports (oil/urals etc.)

*Russian Urals Oil Exports from the Baltic Sea Port of Primorsk Set at 10.6 Mln T in Q2 (9.2 Mln T in Q1) – Schedule.
*Russia’s Crude Oil Supplies via Transneft from Western Ports and the Druzhba Pipeline Are Expected to Increase to 37.8 Mln Tonnes in Q2 2022, Up from 35.8 Mln Tonnes in Q1- Quarterly Schedule.
*Urals Crude Loadings from the Baltic Sea Port of Ust-Luga Set at 7.2 Mln T in Q2 (8.5 Mln T in Q1) – Schedule.
*Russian Urals Oil Exports to Poland and Germany Set at 10.26 Mln T in Q2 (8.81 Mln T in Q1) – Schedule.
*In Q2, 6.2 Mln Tonnes in Q1, Urals and Siberian Light Oil Loadings from the Black Sea’s Novorossiisk Have Been Set at 6.8 Mln Tonnes – Schedule.

*IMF’s Managing Director Georgieva: The Ukraine Conflict Is like a Powerful Earthquake for the Rest of the World.
*IMF’s Managing Director Georgieva: The War Is to Make Debt Problems More Serious for Some Nations.

*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: I Have No Doubt That My Country Will Join the European Union as a Full Member.
*Ukraine President Says Russian Forces Continue to Block Humanitarian Corridors to Mariupol City
*Ukraine President Says Rescue Work at Mariupol Theatre Continues, So Far 130 People Rescued
*Ukrainian President: Moscow Government’s Freedom Must Be Restricted and Russian Ports Besieged
*Ukrainian President: All International Companies Should Refrain from Dealing with the Criminal Russian Regime
*Ukrainian Pres.: Enemy Must Return to Its Land; Russia Will Pay Heavy Price for Its Invasion of Ukraine
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ult-risk-tumbles-as-bond-payment-sent-to-citi

*Xi-Biden Call Has Started – Chinese State Media

*Xi Says Conflicts, Confrontation Not Beneficial to Anyone:CCTV
*Xi Tells Biden State-to-State Relations Cannot Advance to Stage of Confrontation – Chinese State Media
*Xi Says Conflicts, Confrontations Not in Interests of Anyone – Chinese State Media
*Xi Says Peace, Security Are Most Cherished Treasures of International Community – Chinese State Media
*Xi Says Says Ukraine Crisis Is Something We Don’t Want to See – Chinese State Media
*Xi Says Tells Biden That China, U.S. Must Guide Bilateral Relations Along Right Track – Chinese State Media
*Xi Tells Biden China, U.S. Must Shoulder Due International Responsibilities, Make Efforts for World Peace – Chinese State Media
*Xi: United States Has a Responsibility to Make More Efforts to Achieve World Peace
*Xi: China and U.S Should Cooperate for World Peace
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1504821920734273538
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1504822364864978951

*Russian Delegate to the Security Council: We Have Documents Proving Washington’s Involvement in Carrying Out a Biological Program in Ukraine
*Russian Delegate to the Security Council: Kiev’s Dangerous Biological Projects Were Directly Supported and Supervised by the U.S. Department of Defense
*Russian Delegate: U.S. Funding Amounted to $32 Million Went Directly to Ukrainian Military Laboratories

~Gonna stick to using text size 3, I just realized how ****** it is to read on phone otherwise

 

[EddScott]

Yea you're watching to much Fox news.

Never seen Fox News.

So if you believe that then how come you never speak up when people say Poland is next ?

Why is it only a select few of us and then we get called pro Putin bots/Russians/comrade.

Are people here that afraid to speak their minds because of the name calling.

Poland is (probably) not "next".

 

[Tesla]

In that Wrestlemania-esque recent Putin speech he looks really different, looks like steroids?

 

[Firestar_3x]

Well they can’t win, their economy is in free fall, their military is decimated all in three weeks. You call that a win do you?

Plus even if by some miracle invade right across the country, it is clear that Ukraine doesn't want the Russians present, so good luck trying to rule that, so yes they have lost.

 

[Andrew_McP]

A very hard read, translated by this bloke, from someone escaping Mariupol. There's a difference between imagining how bad it must be to actually hearing the details of a personal account. It is horrifying to think that the only way it'll stop any time soon is if Ukraine surrender. And when they surrender, they'll surrender everything except lives... well, apart from the thousands who'll be persecuted either blatantly or "subtly" afterwards. I'm no longer sure what's worse.
https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/1504579756221558792

their military is decimated all in three weeks

I think their disposable army's decimated, but if Putin pulls seasoned troops from areas where he can now be sure NATO's never going to be a threat, that could change a lot. I want to be very wrong though, because people are easy to move. Their kit, less so, especially if things are as chaotic behind the scenes as they seem. Assuming an enemy's incompetence is always risky though, no matter what current appearances are.

 

[Scougar]

Do you think they have time to record literally every incident in a surrounded city being bombed 24/7?

Not to mention the immediate reaction world we live in, and conclusions being jumped to immediately. We are witnessing the battle in almost real time, from so many perspectives.

I am very pleased to know they were in a bomb shelter in the theatre. I hope that minimized casualties.

 

[Mr Badger]

In that Wrestlemania-esque recent Putin speech he looks really different, looks like steroids?

He's just getting ready to emerge in his final supervillain form.

 

[Mr Badger]

Armchair strategists: Reports of some more Russian naval activity near Odesa (I think AlJazeera mentioned landing craft in the area). If they do actually attempt an amphibious assault, does anyone think there will be a turnaround in Russian tactics and competence delivering a successful landing? Or just an opportunity for Ukrainian forces to give them another bloody nose with rocket batteries and artillery?

 

[bris]

and FYI I already said we should just have invaded Belarus and made it our Ukraine....

You are quite cleary a Putin fan boy who is denying a mass slaughter of civilians, it simple enough to work out, the kremlin spouts this crap every day.

You say we should have invaded Belarus instead? So you are a wanna be dictator then. You can take Belarus easy because Ukrain are kicking out butts and making us look stupid all over the world.

What you should be saying is live at let live, we have no tight to take anyones land, but no you don't actually care who gets hurt.

 

[Malevolence]

Well, at least there's a some sliver of good news out of Ukraine today. Heard today that my Godparents' Son and his family (he married a Ukrainian woman and moved there around 2008) have made it out of the country and are currently in Slovakia, hopefully on the way to stay with a Cousin of hers in Vienna. He's not having much luck, back in 2014 they had to up sticks from Crimea and moved to Odesa.

 

[bris]

Armchair strategists: Reports of some more Russian naval activity near Odessa (I think AlJazeera mentioned landing craft in the area). If they do actually attempt an amphibious assault, does anyone think there will be a turnaround in Russian tactics and competence delivering a successful landing? Or just an opportunity for Ukrainian forces to give them another bloody nose with rocket batteries and artillery?

I would assume the defenders are aware and ready to send them to Davy jones locker. I wouldnt want to be on any landing craft with all them suicide drones now kicking about.

 

[NickK]

Armchair strategists: Reports of some more Russian naval activity near Odessa (I think AlJazeera mentioned landing craft in the area). If they do actually attempt an amphibious assault, does anyone think there will be a turnaround in Russian tactics and competence delivering a successful landing? Or just an opportunity for Ukrainian forces to give them another bloody nose with rocket batteries and artillery?

I thought they'd sea mined the area to the south. Perhaps they've been busy clearing the mines by diver?

 

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*Ukraine Deputy Defence Minister: Russian Forces Have Not Advanced Further
*Xi-Biden Meeting Concluded at 10:52 P.M. Beijing Time – Chinese State Media
*White House: The Biden/Xi Meeting via Phone Lasted Just Under 2 Hours.
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1504837200361439237

*Russia to Block YouTube As Early As Today – RIA
*Russia Plans to Block YouTube for at Least a Week – RIA
https://sputniknews.com/20220318/yo...n-russia-by-end-of-next-week--1093989245.html

*Dutch Govt Confirms It Will Supply One Patriot Missile Defense System to Slovakia – Statement
*Western Official: Seen Nothing Which Suggests Overall Intent of Russian President Putin in Ukraine Has Altered
*Newsweek on Russian Intelligence Document: China Has Plans to Invade Taiwan Next Fall – Aljazeera. ~ they trying to stir something up?
*EU Membership Remains Ukraine Main Goal: Ambassador to Germany
*Ukraine-Russia War Temporary Solution Impossible: Ambassador
https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nie...erdedigingssystemen-definitief-naar-slowakije
https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1504839364622311424
https://www.newsweek.com/china-plan...all-alleged-russian-intel-leak-claims-1688449 - not sure why this is circling now if the article is 2 days old.

*Xi, Biden Exchanged Views Candidly on Ukraine, Ties: CCTV

 

[NickK]

I think their disposable army's decimated, but if Putin pulls seasoned troops from areas where he can now be sure NATO's never going to be a threat, that could change a lot. I want to be very wrong though, because people are easy to move. Their kit, less so, especially if things are as chaotic behind the scenes as they seem. Assuming an enemy's incompetence is always risky though, no matter what current appearances are.

What if Putin needs them? There's nothing stopping the conflict regions from attempting to gain an advantage with less troops to fight.

If they were already present fighting in other areas, and they've not been victorious then the question is - how good are they? I suppose he could take his crack troops but then if they're lost he has a far larger problem.

Putin has over extended himself and over committed.

 

[koolpc]

Those that were invaded did -

France did
Holland did
Belgium did
Luxembourg did
Denmark did
Norway did
Poland did
Yugoslavia did
Greece did

All these countries were invaded by Hitler, as in they had actual Germans fighting in the streets of their cities, and all had Governments who surrendered to stop the carnage, some almost immediately and some after fighting for a while. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it" said someone far smarter than you apparently.



I absolutely 100% agree and thats what I was saying - it's their choice and not some random person on the internet hiding behind their keyboard who is calling for them to fight to the death.



I'm saying, quite clearly I thought, that a random internet person shouldn't be the one telling the Ukrainians to sacrifice their kids in a fight to the death just because the random internet person is angry. As per my post, it's not our choice, it's theirs to make.

But, the countries, the world, fought back. Just like in Ukraine, in WWII the people fought back. The world didnt take it lying down. Imagine if hitler was not opposed! If he was allowed to bulldoze without resistance.

This is why Ukraine cant give in or give up.

Puty has to be stopped. Its not just me saying that. All the countries hitting the Russian economy are saying it. All the countries sending arms to Ukraine are saying it.

 

[steve45]

I think their disposable army's decimated, but if Putin pulls seasoned troops from areas where he can now be sure NATO's never going to be a threat, that could change a lot.

See people keep saying this, but there appears to be plenty "seasoned" troops in amongst the forces in Ukraine, not to mention their much lauded VDV, Special forces, and the much feared Chechens. None of them have faired any better. The problem dosnt appear to be quality of soldier. The problem appears to be poor tactics and lack of flexibility in tactics, Shocking communications (Using clear un-encrypted comms)and terrible Logistics. The problem is higher up the chain, the decision makers, planners, the officers.

 

[Minusorange]

Armchair strategists: Reports of some more Russian naval activity near Odesa (I think AlJazeera mentioned landing craft in the area). If they do actually attempt an amphibious assault, does anyone think there will be a turnaround in Russian tactics and competence delivering a successful landing? Or just an opportunity for Ukrainian forces to give them another bloody nose with rocket batteries and artillery?

They could land successfully but they don't have any way to support that landing because they need Mykolaiv first

 

[Rroff]

I thought they'd sea mined the area to the south. Perhaps they've been busy clearing the mines by diver?

According to someone who lives there the sea and beach are mined and they have a lot of surprised just inland as well for any assault from the sea. The Russians were making attempts to try and do mine sweeping off the coast but not sure how that is going.

 

[Twinz]

Armchair strategists: Reports of some more Russian naval activity near Odesa (I think AlJazeera mentioned landing craft in the area). If they do actually attempt an amphibious assault, does anyone think there will be a turnaround in Russian tactics and competence delivering a successful landing? Or just an opportunity for Ukrainian forces to give them another bloody nose with rocket batteries and artillery?

Amphibious assaults on a defended beach expect to take a lot of losses when they are done right. Russia had better bring a LOT of landing craft and troops.

If they perform the way they have elsewhere in this war, this will be Putin commiting atrocities against his own troops.