Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Have you heard of google?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ssians-near-kyiv-ukraine-war-latest-sqhrbtdrb

There's another evidenced report of 10 people murdered buying essentials.

There is a captured soldier who survived russian soldiers trying to kill him after he refused to kill civilians and was helping one.o

No idea why people have their heads in the sand.
the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder. Because IF we are talking about the same incident…
Car looks bad. Have no context, but someone with hands in the air. Fair cop.
Ukrainian soldier statement. Bottom of pile.
 
the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder.
Car looks bad. Have no context.

There's a video. But feel free to convince yourself this guy must have been a terrorist or something and he deserved to die even with hands up.
 
the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder.
Car looks bad. Have no context, but someone with hands in the air. Fair cop.
Ukrainian soldier statement. Bottom of pile.

Russian soldier, but yeh ofc you dont actually want real evidence and have deliberately avoided it most likely. You have your agenda to peddle.
 
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the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder.
Car looks bad. Have no context, but someone with hands in the air. Fair cop.

Horrific videos of:
Old couple shot up in their car by an apc
The father and son both shot in car and die in a ditch together
Drone footage of a soldier chasing after a man who got out of his car with hands up and was shot

That's three off the top of my head I could think of.
 
@mattyfez @DrToffnar @Mr Jack Thanks, always nice to see how other people are looking at things.
NATO/EU/US will definitely continue providing arms/aid that's for sure, I don't think there will be any backing down in that regard on their part.

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the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder. Because IF we are talking about the same incident…
Car looks bad. Have no context, but someone with hands in the air. Fair cop.
Ukrainian soldier statement. Bottom of pile.

You have 144 posts in total, and 104 of them in this thread always downplaying anything the Russians have done. Bit weird no?
 
Russian soldier, but yeh ofc you dont actually want real evidence and havent deliberately avoided it most likely. You have your agenda to peddle.
I know right video evidence I agree with.
Captured soldier I raise my eyes, thirdly I ask about the queue for bread as you should know that they corrected the initial report. They were killed by shellfire. Makes naff all difference to the poor sods who died. It does however make it less direct line of site murder and more indirect artillery poor sods.
That doesn’t fit your agenda though.
 
I know right video evidence I agree with.
Captured soldier I raise my eyes, thirdly I ask about the queue for bread as you should know that they corrected the initial report. They were killed by shellfire. Makes naff all difference to the poor sods who died. It does however make it less direct line of site murder and more indirect artillery poor sods.
That doesn’t fit your agenda though.

I'm confused, I clearly said Russia has been bombing and shelling civilian buildings and targets.

Indirect shellfire? Like accidentally hitting a massive building a 1000+ people. Wow you are clueless.

It is clear what Russia's rules of engagement are in Ukraine.

There are way more pictures and video of cars being destroyed and shot at murdering people. But like I said you don't want to go read that.
 
the people ‘shot’ buying bread - it better not be your opener for murder. Because IF we are talking about the same incident…
Car looks bad. Have no context, but someone with hands in the air. Fair cop.
Ukrainian soldier statement. Bottom of pile.
You are either Russian or a troll.
 
I know right video evidence I agree with.
Captured soldier I raise my eyes, thirdly I ask about the queue for bread as you should know that they corrected the initial report. They were killed by shellfire. Makes naff all difference to the poor sods who died. It does however make it less direct line of site murder and more indirect artillery poor sods.
That doesn’t fit your agenda though.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docindex/v2_rul_rule11

Russian Federation
The Russian Federation’s Military Manual (1990) prohibits “the launching of an indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian persons in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects”.
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Russian Federation
The Russian Federation’s Regulations on the Application of IHL (2001) states: “It is … prohibited to launch indiscriminate attacks while conducting combat operations.”
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Russia aren't following their own policies and regulations.
 
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docindex/v2_rul_rule11



Russia aren't following their own policies and regulations.
I’m the one claiming that most artillery and bombing isn’t indiscriminate. Munitions are far too expensive and a pain to transport to the front line to fire off at random or to target a passing civilian.
They are fired with some accuracy at enemy troops or where they are trying to capture. Often cover… which is often buildings/ houses. Mauripol is flattened because it’s being constantly fought over. Not for lol’s by bored squaddies with nothing better to do.

Pilots risking their lives daily to randomly bomb a house somewhere? Cmon.
 
That's rather vague. If you're going to accuse the Americans of being just as bad as the Russians then you could at least give some specific examples from recent history of them deliberately targeting people they believed to be innocent civilians.

Do you remember early on in this war how a Russian tank driver deliberately drove over and crushed a car being driven by an old man? That sort of callous gratuitous violence against civilians by Russians has characterised this war and previous conflicts they were involved in.

The vehicle was a Strela-10, an anti-aircraft missile launcher.

It is used by both Russia and Ukraine, if it was Russian do you honestly believe it was driving around alone in Kyiv the capitol of Ukraine without any escort so early in the invasion.
To do what protect Ukrainian Skies ?
Surely if the driver was Russian he would not be wearing a Ukrainian uniform and would have fled the scene after the collision.
 
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