No they didn't, this never happened and the claim was debunked by Gorbachev himself.
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No they didn't, this never happened and the claim was debunked by Gorbachev himself.
Interesting BBC article on Putin, his isolation and his personality: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60807134
The interesting point about the "as if the military plan was run by a KGB operative .. with the secrecy causing chaos..".
The interesting point about the "as if the military plan was run by a KGB operative .. with the secrecy causing chaos..".
And even if NATO had never allowed the baltic states, Poland, Hungary, etc., to join, The EU would and did. This is much more of a westernising force with their thrust for a common currency and common laws. Putin would never have allowed this long term either. If Turkey were to accede, the whole of western Russia would be bounded by the EU.
Unless Turkey changes dramatically to be more aligned with western standards they'll never get in. The EU has been saying no for 35 years. Russia being a thug is unlikely to make any difference.
Turkey has agreements and they do want full membership but there's a big list of requirements they don't feel like meeting.
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Greece and Cyprus mean Turkey can never join.
Russia will carry out more atrocities but they will not make progress in any meaningful military sense. Talks will continue to go nowhere. Ukraine will make some moral boosting victories against the invaders but slip further militarily as more strikes harm their capabilities. What happens then is harder to say. Poland does seem to be seriously considering joining the fight, and if they do I think we'll see a number of other countries (including, probably, the UK) join the fight in a formal sense.
If that happens, Russia is in big trouble. Their grinding war against a Western-back Ukraine may eventually make progress, getting battered by troops staging from untouched third countries is another thing entirely. Attacking those countries directly would only make things worse for Russia but is Putin even going to realise that? I don't know. I can also see Belarus erupting into civil war as Russia tries to pressure them into joining the fight on Russia's side and the Belarusians being asked to being asked to fight refuse to launch a senseless war against their brothers and sisters in Ukraine. Would Moldova decide then also decide that this is their chance to decisively reject Russian influence and join in? Dangerous times for the wider world, but Biden will resist American involvement and Putin won't want to lure them in with a nuclear strike.
On the other hand, if Poland doesn't join the war. Russia is still in big trouble. It's forces are bogged down, it's supply lines are a joke, and sanctions are biting hard. I suspect that notions of a coup in Russia are little more than wishful thinking at this point, but when does Putin decide to compromise and what compromise can he reach with Ukraine? Seems unlikely much will move in the next few weeks.
And now for my actual prediction: most of what I have written above will turn out to be wrong. Who are we kidding here? None of us have a clue how this will play out.
Probably due to the fact they deploy 95% of all forces in any coalition then they will always have a higher percentage.
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If the majority opinion is justifiably correct there's nothing to fear from hearing opposing or alternate voices , please don't let this thread become another Speaker's Corner.
Amnesia may not share all your opinions on this conflict, but his views are politely put, not wild conspiracy theories, and no one should aim to silence them merely because they disagree with them.
Amnesia may not share all your opinions on this conflict, but his views are politely put, not wild conspiracy theories, and no one should aim to silence them merely because they disagree with them.
Once upon a time there was the equivalent of peace as everyone in Cyprus blamed and attacked the UK for running the place as a colony.
Then 5 minutes after the UK left, the Greeks and Greek Cypriots violently overthrew the Cyprus government which greatly upset Turkey and Turkish Cypriots so after considering if it could take Greece in a fight, Turkey invaded Cyprus and took 1/3 of it.
Turkey is currently being the worse party but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have invaded at all if Greece didn't start anything.
Given the number of lost/amutated limbs: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60814913
The cost of limbs being in the region of £25K for example: 4449759, an iPulse hand replacement is £25K.
The sale of oligarch assets could go towards funding not only the rebuilding but also the rehabilitation and replacement limbs. A $500M oligarch yacht could lay for 20,000 maclaren I-pulse limbs for example.
The cost of limbs being in the region of £25K for example: 4449759, an iPulse hand replacement is £25K.
The sale of oligarch assets could go towards funding not only the rebuilding but also the rehabilitation and replacement limbs. A $500M oligarch yacht could lay for 20,000 maclaren I-pulse limbs for example.
In Putin's head this is the loss of Russian land to the EU superstate. Essentially a EU peaceful expansion of EU boarders - where red gave way to grey, now grey gives way to blue. As simple a visual as that.
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All fair points, but I still think Cyprus and Greece would oppose Turkish EU membership.
It is in there best interests, Russians are being played by China.
Ok fair enough you got me on the surrender, early in the invasion I didn't expect Ukraine to be able to put up a fight the way they did but that's because I did not expect them to get as much support(military & other) as they have from across the world, it changed the war.
As it stands I still say concessions to end it.
As it stands I still say concessions to end it.
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Reports seem to be coming that Ukraine are on the verge of taking back Kherson.
Concessions would not end it. Concessions didn't end it when Ukraine gained her sovereignty. Russia simply ignored the agreements and broke her promises. That's how this all started back in 2014, remember?
Not sure what they can do with Mariupol but surely some kind of counter offensive would be good there.
spot on. It seems like @Amnesia struggles to grasp the fact that Russia has lied time after time and broke multiple agreements. This cannot end the same way Crimea etc ended. If it does, they'll be back for more very soon.
I'm sure everyone is aware how many innocent people will die but long term, hopefully, Ukraine wins this and over-all that'll either give enough time for Putin to disappear or to change his mind.
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