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Puzzled said:
What is the deal with the Azov battalion now?
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The deal is that they're a chink in Ukraine's armour and Putin's propaganda army (the only extremely competent army he has) has blown it out of all proportion. I'm sure blind eyes have been turned to that battalion's true intents and methods during the long slog Ukraine's had fighting Russia-in-disguise in the East for all these years. But given how pathetic the rest of the world's response was to Crimea, I find it hard to criticise this fledgling, fragile democracy for decisions which have helped defend themselves.

No doubt once the West has got bored and Putin's sitting back smugly with his new territory and eased sanctions, we'll get no end of tales of Azov brutality. Some of which will be horrifying and true. None of which will be more than a smudge of sadness against the bloody legacy of Putin's ruthless success in turning towns and cities into stone age settlements that will probably never recover.

War's always hell. But the additional hell of clever, twisted propaganda in the internet age is an abomination the world may never recover from.
 
Sankari said:
That is utterly terrifying.
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Industry, not capability or assets.

In the end it's simply erased Russia's arms exports to Ukraine and for Russia to import Ukrainian arms. They used to supply Turkmenistan but perhaps Russia will be looking to reduce any arms imports for any 'friendly' puppet governments from Ukraine in case they end up with Ukrainian NLAWS and Javelins exports..
 
*Russian PM Mishustin: Russia Imposes a Moratorium on Bankruptcies for 6 Months.
*Russia Will Ban Export of Sunflower and Rapeseed From April 1

*Europe’s Workers Face Bigger Squeeze From Real Wage Cuts - FT
'This was supposed to be the year European wages started to catch up with inflation, but the economic fallout of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine leaves many EU workers facing even bigger pay cuts in real terms, according to union officials and executives.'
https://www.ft.com/content/ed477fe9-46fa-43d0-b315-4170763261c2

*Turkey’s Erdogan Calls Russia’s Decision to Reduce Operations Near Kyiv and Chernihiv a Truly Important Decision — Media.
*Turkey’s President Erdogan: I Will Make Another Offer to Putin and Zelenskiy to Bring Them Together — Media.
*Turkey’s President Erdogan: Turkey Is Ready, in Principle, to Act As Guarantor for Ukraine, but Details Need to Be Worked Out — Media.

*OPEC+: Downside Economic Risks Have Become More Pronounced, With Conflict in Eastern Europe Leading to Rising Prices and Escalating Global Inflation.
*OPEC+: Continued Conflict Will Lead to a Decline in Consumption and Investment, As Well As an Impact on Currency Markets, Equities, and Debt Repricing.
*Due to Geopolitical Turmoil, OPEC+ Revises Its 2022 Global Oil Demand Growth Forecast of 4.2 Million Barrels per Day.
*OPEC+: IEA’s Decision to Release 61.7 Million Barrels of Oil Stock, Largest Release in History, Has Failed to Calm the Market Volatility.
*OPEC+: JMMC Meeting Starts - Source
*The OPEC+ JMMC Recommends a 432k Bpd Increase in Output for May - Delegates.
*The OPEC+ JMMC Meeting Recommends Maintaining the Current Output Policy - Source.
*The OPEC+ JMMC Has Agreed to Increase Oil Output by 432,000 Bpd Beginning in May - Source.
*OPEC+ Agrees to Maintain Current Policy, With a Vote to Follow - Source.
*The Next Meeting of OPEC+ Will Be Held On May 5th - Source.
*The OPEC+ Vote on the Deal Has Been Completed, and a Consensus Has Been Reached.- Source.

*Oil Above $100/barrel to Stay As Market Struggles to Replace Russian Barrels - RTRS Poll
https://financialpost.com/pmn/busin...s-market-struggles-to-replace-russian-barrels

*UK PM Johnson’s Spokesman: I Am Not Aware of Any Current Plan to Release Oil Reserves.
*The United Kingdom Has Already Released 2.2 Million Barrels of Oil, According to a Spokesman.
*UK PM Johnson’s Spokesman: The UK Needs to Use Oil Reserves Carefully.

'The map below is the latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 31 March 2022'
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https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1509487294738317312

*German Energy Regulator Bundesnetzagentur: Gas Supply Situation Is Stable, Stocks Filled to 26.8% and Rising
*Italy’s Draghi: Govt Will Do What Is Necessary to Curb Inflation, It’s Driven by Energy, Food, Bottlenecks, Supply Shortages
*Italy’s Draghi: Russia Reflected Better on Implication of Trying to Impose Gas Payments in Roubles

*Russian MOD: Ukraine Threatens to Sink Any Foreign Ship Trying to Leave Its Ports. — Sputnik.

*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: We Have Heard That Russia Will Reduce Its Attacks in Ukraine, but Russian Units Are Not Withdrawing but Repositioning.
*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: We Can Expect More Russian Attacks in Ukraine, Bringing More Suffering
*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: Russia Is Reorganising for an Offensive in Donbas.
*NATO Will Continue to Supply Weapons to Ukraine, According to Stoltenberg.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...wing-regrouping-ukraine-nato-says-2022-03-31/
 
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NickK said:
Industry, not capability or assets.

In the end it's simply erased Russia's arms exports to Ukraine and for Russia to import Ukrainian arms. They used to supply Turkmenistan but perhaps Russia will be looking to reduce any arms imports for any 'friendly' puppet governments from Ukraine in case they end up with Ukrainian NLAWS and Javelins exports..
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Why would anyone buy Russian armament after seeing the performance in the past month? It would all get thwacked by western stuff in an instant. China must be totally rethinking how to arm itself now.
 
Doggie2k said:
Why would anyone buy Russian armament after seeing the performance in the past month? It would all get thwacked by western stuff in an instant. China must be totally rethinking how to arm itself now.
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western stuff probably expensive. I hear that the UK are one of the biggest arms dealers in the world lol
 
Andrew_McP said:
The deal is that they're a chink in Ukraine's armour and Putin's propaganda army (the only extremely competent army he has) has blown it out of all proportion. I'm sure blind eyes have been turned to that battalion's true intents and methods during the long slog Ukraine's had fighting Russia-in-disguise in the East for all these years. But given how pathetic the rest of the world's response was to Crimea, I find it hard to criticise this fledgling, fragile democracy for decisions which have helped defend themselves.

No doubt once the West has got bored and Putin's sitting back smugly with his new territory and eased sanctions, we'll get no end of tales of Azov brutality. Some of which will be horrifying and true. None of which will be more than a smudge of sadness against the bloody legacy of Putin's ruthless success in turning towns and cities into stone age settlements that will probably never recover.

War's always hell. But the additional hell of clever, twisted propaganda in the internet age is an abomination the world may never recover from.
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The other pertinent question the troll factory glances over is, how many scary right-wing nationalist does the Russian military and government have?

Although it does seems the Russian military have a lot of use for their non-Slav population - as cannon fodder.
 
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Andrew_McP said:
The deal is that they're a chink in Ukraine's armour and Putin's propaganda army (the only extremely competent army he has) has blown it out of all proportion. I'm sure blind eyes have been turned to that battalion's true intents and methods during the long slog Ukraine's had fighting Russia-in-disguise in the East for all these years. But given how pathetic the rest of the world's response was to Crimea, I find it hard to criticise this fledgling, fragile democracy for decisions which have helped defend themselves.

No doubt once the West has got bored and Putin's sitting back smugly with his new territory and eased sanctions, we'll get no end of tales of Azov brutality. Some of which will be horrifying and true. None of which will be more than a smudge of sadness against the bloody legacy of Putin's ruthless success in turning towns and cities into stone age settlements that will probably never recover.

War's always hell. But the additional hell of clever, twisted propaganda in the internet age is an abomination the world may never recover from.
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I appreciate war is hell and you take whatever help you can get but I just didn't know how much control the Ukrainian government have over Azov. If a deal was made over Mariupol, would Azov accept it or continue fighting? When this is all over will they be celebrated or disbanded?

Like you say Russia will use them to fuel propaganda and justify their barbaric shelling of the city which Azov are defending. I was listening to hard talk last night on BBC news and they were interviewing a Russian MP and she flat out refused to accept any Ukrainian or Western news sources. Instead just kept referring to Ukrainian nationalism and how the Russian troops were saving the residents of Mariupol from extremists, it was surreal.
 
Puzzled said:
I was listening to hard talk last night on BBC news
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Thoroughly depressing, wasn't it. Scarily depressing in fact.

We're in an age of doubting ourselves, our past, our influence on the world. But sooner or later you have to step back, take a look at the world as a whole, and think... maybe Churchill was right #TriggeringLeaderMention. Our very flawed democracy -- lobbying and foreign money and all -- really is the worst form of government... apart from all the others that've been tried.

As for Azov... I'm sure I read something more relevant recently, but this (probably posted before) seems as good a guide to the history, at least. https://twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1506988213637890048
 
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*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: We Have Heard That Russia Will Reduce Its Attacks in Ukraine, but Russian Units Are Not Withdrawing but Repositioning.
*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: We Can Expect More Russian Attacks in Ukraine, Bringing More Suffering
*NATO Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: Russia Is Reorganising for an Offensive in Donbas.
*NATO Will Continue to Supply Weapons to Ukraine, According to Stoltenberg.
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*NATO's Sec. Gen. Stoltenberg: Chemical Weapon Would Change Nature of Conflict

*JP Morgan, Russia’s Correspondent Bank, Handled the Coupon Payment on the 2030 Sovereign Dollar Bond Due on Thursday. - Source Familiar With the Situation.
*OPEC+ Refuses To Deviate From Gradual Oil Output Hikes - BBG
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-as-oil-consumers-take-action-to-ease-prices

*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: Europe’s Courage on the No-Fly Zone Is in Question
*DPR Head Ordered to Form the Administration of Mariupol
 
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Zelensky's lack of gratitude to, and sniping at his European allies will end up biting him on the backside if he's not careful. It only takes the next major drama to take Ukraine off the news, as we have seen with the Chinese virus.
 
*Senior Ukraine Military Official: Russia Has Lost Its Offensive Capability in the Vicinity of Kiev.
*Senior Ukraine Military Official: Russian Forces Stationed Near Kiev Are Not Inconsequential.
*Senior Ukrainian Military Official: Russian Soldiers Have Switched Tactics and Are Now Avoiding Direct Combat in Favour of Long-Range Attacks.

*Russia’s State and Corporate Foreign Debt at $480.0B As of Jan 1 - BOR
*Moody’s: In Europe, Security Threats Will Amplify Economic Shocks, Dragging Down Consumption and Investment.
*OPEC Is to Stop Using Data From the IEA to Estimate Oil Output. - Delegates.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
Zelensky's lack of gratitude to, and sniping at his European allies will end up biting him on the backside if he's not careful. It only takes the next major drama to take Ukraine off the news, as we have seen with the Chinese virus.
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Give the man some credit. He's watching his people being annihilated, almost indiscriminately on an hourly basis. Plus it's clever politics, he asks for something he knows we can't afford to give so he get's more of everything else.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Zelensky's lack of gratitude to, and sniping at his European allies will end up biting him on the backside if he's not careful. It only takes the next major drama to take Ukraine off the news, as we have seen with the Chinese virus.
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No it won't; only to vicious right wing keyboard warriors like yourself.
 
*Putin Has Signed an Order Establishing Gas Trade Rules. — Source.
*Putin: New Gas Rules Are Valid From 1st April.
*Putin: Customers of Gas Should Open Accounts in Russian Banks.
*Putin: If Demands Are Not Met, Active Contracts Will Be Halted.
*Putin: We Have All the Evidence to Believe That We Provided a Portion of Russian Gas for Free Following the Asset Freeze.
*Putin: Current Risks Are Not Acceptable.
*Putin: Switching to Rouble Payments Will Help to Strengthen Russia’s Sovereignty.
*Putin: We Will Supply Gas at Agreed-Upon Volumes and Prices.
*Putin: Russian Gas Prices Are Far Lower Than on the Spot Market.
*Putin: Europe Is Ready to Ignore the Interests of Its Own Citizens.
*Putin: The US Will Try to Settle Its Issues at the Expense of Others.
*Putin: The United States Will Profit From Global Instability.
*Putin: Europeans Are Compelled to Pay for LNG From the United States.
*Putin: Economic War Against Russia Started Years Ago, the Goal Is to Undermine Russia’s Development
*Putin: Western Sanctions Had Been Prepared Beforehand
*Putin: The West Will Attempt to Find New Reasons to Sanction, Which Is Likely to Continue.
*Putin Orders to Open Special Accounts for Gas Payments in Gazprombank — IFAX
*Putin: We Have to Keep and Create Jobs

*Berlin-French Economy Minister Le Maire: We Are Totally Determined to Protect Households From Fallout of Current Energy Crisis
*German Economy Minister Habeck: France & Germany to Collaborate on Energy Issues on a Daily Basis.
*German Economy Minister Habeck: Last Sanction Package Against Russia Should Not Be Last One
*German Economy Minister Habeck: I Have Not Yet Seen Any New Gas Bills From Russia.
*German Economy Minister Habeck: We Are Prepared for Whatever Putin Decides on Gas.
*German Economy Minister Habeck: On Gas Payments, We Will Not Be Blackmailed by Putin
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: The Russian Position on Gas Payments, As Well As Existing Contracts, Must Be Respected.
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: The G7 Leaders Have Been Quite Explicit on the Question of Gas Payments.
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: France & Germany Preparing for Possible Scenario of a Halt in Russian Gas Flows.
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: Gas Contracts in Euro Will Be Payed in Euro

*Blast Reported in Central Kyiv, Ukraine; Smoke Seen Rising Above Area
*NATO Asks Denmark to Send Military Battalion With 800 Troops to Latvia - Danish Defense Ministry
 
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