Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Try with what? Russia doesn't have the resources to launch an offensive operation even if they wanted to. Their military has been shown to be completely inept. We may as well disband NATO at this point on the basis that it has no actual opposition.

Just a small distraction to stop Finland joining Nato? Finland attacked first and Russia has to defend itself by bombing civilians or whatever they make up. If Finland crosses the border they have to be nuked in self defence of course.. (if Russia still thinks Ukrainia will fall when we get closer to June)
 
Taken (yesterday?) and taken just before the Russian invasion. You dont need to see the horrors that the Russians have committed to know what he has seen.

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Video of Ukraine stugna team hitting a ka52 helicopter! That’s an anti tank missile.

This is quality

Just seen video on Ukranian soldiers with few Russian soldiers dead on the road one guy mortally wounded twitching, the other one hand tied dead and looks like been executed shot in the head.

Not going to be good for POW both sides now war is hell man.
 
Its a little more complicated than that - as any DCA aircraft can be certified for weapon use in the event it is required - they would carry the B61. Currently Germany has 44 available weapons . Italy, Belgium and The Netherlands also host nuclear B61 weapons.

All under the Nuclear Sharing Agreement.

I think we're saying the same thing, capable doesn't mean certified.

On the aircraft I've worked Certified means carrying a different role equipment fit, with additional weapons/avionics packages for the Release of Nuclear Weapons (secure/crypto equipment in the cockpit alongside "other" black boxes in the airframe) which isn't kept permanently fitted to a "capable" aircraft so, from my experience, adding all the extra bit is one of the things which converts a capable aircraft into a certified aircraft. I've no doubt at all that various NATO nations have "capable" aircraft but I would suggest (but not specifically know) that very few will fly in a "certified" condition due to all that extra role equipment needed, which also needs additional security around the aircraft when fitted.
 
I think we're saying the same thing, capable doesn't mean certified.

On the aircraft I've worked Certified means carrying a different role equipment fit, with additional weapons/avionics packages for the Release of Nuclear Weapons (secure/crypto equipment in the cockpit alongside "other" black boxes in the airframe) which isn't kept permanently fitted to a "capable" aircraft so, from my experience, adding all the extra bit is one of the things which converts a capable aircraft into a certified aircraft. I've no doubt at all that various NATO nations have "capable" aircraft but I would suggest (but not specifically know) that very few will fly in a "certified" condition due to all that extra role equipment needed, which also needs additional security around the aircraft when fitted.

Yes, i do thik we both are saying the same thing in a different way ;) - Belgium / and the Dutch use F16`s, Italy and Germany use Tonka`s, all *can* operate under the NSA for B61 thus *could* be certified. Im sure you know that the UK also kept some WE.177 in Italy as well as the French ;)
 
Reports coming in that the Ukrainians shot themselves in the back after tying themselves up.

Sources are being investigated

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The Russians must find it hilarious how easily muppets believe their nonsense. Anything that is contrary to the main stream media must be true right?

Spread disinformation, muddy the waters. Its effective for those who doubt or who don't want to believe what they're being told and that includes countries that are friendly to russia. Russia is suprisingly effective at this particular game which probably comes from Putin's KGB/FSB training background, he/they are far less effective at military planning, logistics, and operations where they're fifth rate no wonder Putins's been reportedly furious and sacking generals right left and centre
 
Just a small distraction to stop Finland joining Nato? Finland attacked first and Russia has to defend itself by bombing civilians or whatever they make up. If Finland crosses the border they have to be nuked in self defence of course.. (if Russia still thinks Ukrainia will fall when we get closer to June)

Russia is trying to figure a way of consolidating some gains in Eastern Ukraine and leaving without taking more heavy losses, they will be financially crippled for probably the next 50 years, if they went into Finland or Sweden they'd simply litter the snow with dead bodies and burned out armour. The Fins entire military is essentially built as a defense force designed to stop a Russian invasion, and they're good at it.
 
Russia is trying to figure a way of consolidating some gains in Eastern Ukraine and leaving without taking more heavy losses, they will be financially crippled for probably the next 50 years, if they went into Finland or Sweden they'd simply litter the snow with dead bodies and burned out armour. The Fins entire military is essentially built as a defense force designed to stop a Russian invasion, and they're good at it.
Yeah ironic really that in some ways despite waking NATO up a bit and provoking more desire in Finland to join NATO, the war has also removed one of the key potential adversaries from the picture given how badly the Russian military is getting mullered. Surely any chance of Finland being invaded in the next decade is tiny now. At the same time hopefully western countries can keep the long term in mind and see the benefits of consolidating and strengthening the alliance at this volatile point in world affairs, having been reminded that the possibility of war hasn't disappeared.

Who knows what Putin is aiming for at this point, but it would seem to make sense to slowly retreat in the North of Ukraine to tie the Ukrainians up as long as possible and give some options for offering to retreat as diplomatic leverage while consolidating control between Crimea and the Dnieper and in Donetsk and Luhansk. With the battering they're taking you do wonder whether even holding onto that land will be too much of an ask at this point though... Surely they have to be hoping for some kind of stalemate leading to a face saving diplomatic resolution with some face saving gains at this point. Whether that's possible will depend on how long the Russian economy can survive with the sanctions in place, and whether the Russian military can actually achieve a stalemate. In reality I'm not sure the sanctions and fighting will stop until Russia has been pushed back all the way to the border everywhere except Crimea. Probably many sanctions remaining for as long as Putin is president.
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Yeah ironic really that in some ways despite waking NATO up a bit and provoking more desire in Finland to join NATO, the war has also removed one of the key potential adversaries from the picture given how badly the Russian military is getting mullered. Surely any chance of Finland being invaded in the next decade is tiny now. At the same time hopefully western countries can keep the long term in mind and see the benefits of consolidating and strengthening the alliance at this volatile point in world affairs, having been reminded that the possibility of war hasn't disappeared.

Who knows what Putin is aiming for at this point, but it would seem to make sense to slowly retreat in the North of Ukraine to tie the Ukrainians up as long as possible and give some options for offering to retreat as diplomatic leverage while consolidating control between Crimea and the Dnieper and in Donetsk and Luhansk. With the battering they're taking you do wonder whether even holding onto that land will be too much of an ask at this point though... Surely they have to be hoping for some kind of stalemate leading to a face saving diplomatic resolution with some face saving gains at this point. Whether that's possible will depend on how long the Russian economy can survive with the sanctions in place, and whether the Russian military can actually achieve a stalemate. In reality I'm not sure the sanctions and fighting will stop until Russia has been pushed back all the way to the border everywhere except Crimea. Probably many sanctions remaining for as long as Putin is president.
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I watched an analysis on the effects of just the current sanctions - meaning those already in place without any more being added. Basically, Russia's economy and industry will be wrecked within 2 months mainly because they were almost totally reliant on imports for everything. Pootin never calculated for these drastic measures being taken against his country and there is no win he can take away from his war while they are in place. He's finished, and the only question is when and where the bullet comes from - and who he takes down with him.
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That video on the UN live stream was horrific, bodies of men, women and children pilled up. Burnt bodies, people shot in the road, just tragic.

Good that they showed it as this is what is happening but those images will stick with me.
 
— Bloomberg (CET Time)

*Russia Still Pressing Further in Ukraine’s East

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*Russia Business Activity Contracts
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*EU Under Pressure to Sanction Coal, Oil
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*Germany Admits Russia Policy Errors
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*Finland To Train Reservists
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*Ukraine Seeks Turkish Help in Mariupol
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*Von Der Leyen to Meet Zelenskiy in Kyiv
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*Italy Expels 30 Russian Diplomats
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*Oil Rises on Sanctions Talk
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*EU to Propose Ban on Russian Coal
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*Russian Embassy in Dublin Appeals for Help
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*Kremlin Condemns Biden ‘Insults’ Aimed at Putin
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*Germany Ready to Back Halt to Russian Coal Imports
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*U.S. Considers Permanent Bases in Eastern Europe
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Past 5hrs:
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: EU States Willing to Ratchet up Sanctions Against Russia.
*France’s Finance Min. Le Maire: Inflation Is Our Current and Future Challenge.

*Exec. VP EU Commission Dombrovskis: We Will Continue to Tighten Sanctions Against Russia.
*Spain’s Foreign Minister: All Measures Against Russia Are on the Table
*Spain’s Foreign Minister: Russian Ambassador Is Not Included in Staff to Be Expelled

*UK Business Minister: Commissioning a Short Report on the Geological Science of Shale Gas Fracturing
*UK Business Minister: Shale Gas Not the Solution to Near-Term Price Pressures but Need to Keep All Options on the Table

*Germany Is in Talks With the EU About the Timing of the Coal Embargo — Official.
*Russia Says Exchanged Prisoners With Ukraine, 86 Each Side — IFX
*Belarus to Start Paying for Russian Gas in Russian Roubles From April — Govt
*New US Security Aid Announcements Are Expected in the Near Future — Aide.
*Czech Republic Has Sent Several T-72 Tanks and Bvp-1 Infantry Fighting Vehicles to Ukraine — Czech Television
*On Tuesday, the European Commission Will Announce the Initiation of a New Disciplinary Procedure to Block Payments to Hungary Due to Rule of Law Disputes — Two Officials.

*Germany's Foreign Minister Baerbock: Donors Have Agreed 695 Million Euro in Aid to Moldova
*Germany’s Foreign Minister Baerbock: This Will Be Followed by Oil and Eventually Gas.
*Germany’s Foreign Minister Baerbock: The EU Has Agreed to Completely Phase off Reliance on Russian Fossil Fuels, Beginning With Coal.
*Germany’s Foreign Minister Baerbock: We Are Considering Sending Weapons Systems to Ukraine That We Have Not Previously Provided.
*German Foreign Minister: There Are Hardly Weapons Left in the Warehouses of the Bundeswehr That Can Be Sent to Ukraine

*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: Pictures of Bucha Are of Unbearable Brutality Europe Has Not Witnessed in Many Decades.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: Moscow Isn’t Giving up Its Ambitions in Ukraine.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: In the Next Weeks, We Expect Further Russian Push in the East of Ukraine.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: NATO Partners Are Determined to Provide More Arms Support to Ukraine.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: Repositioning of Russian Troops Will Take Some Time, but We Will See a Major New Offensive After That.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: For Finland and Sweden to Decide Whether They Will Join NATO or Not.
*NATO's SEC. Gen. Stoltenberg: If Finland and Sweden Apply, I Expect Member Countries to Welcome Them

*Putin Speaks - https://youtu.be/q2nlwpYCWfA
*Putin: Asset Nationalization Is a Double-Edged Sword
*Putin: About Possible Nationalization of Russian Assets Abroad: It Is a “a Double-Edged Weapon” — IFX
*Putin: Russia Must Maintain a Careful Eye on Agricultural Exports to Unfriendly Countries.

*EU to Sanction Two of Russian President Putin’s Daughters, Officials Say — WSJ
*EU Statement on 5th round of sanctions: https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/topnews/M-008510
- The EU Will Prohibit Russian (Operated) Vessels From Entering EU Ports, Excluding Food, Aid, and Energy.
- The EU Will Impose More Export Prohibitions Totalling €10 Billion, Including Advanced Semiconductors.
- Import Bans of €5.5 Billion to Be Imposed by the EU on Wood, Cement, Seafood, and Liquor.

*EC Pres. von Der Leyen: The EU to Ban Russian (Operated) Vessels From Accessing EU Ports, Excluding Food Products, Aid and Energy
*EC Pres. von Der Leyen: The EU Will Impose a €4 Billion per Year Import Embargo on Russian Coal.
*EC Pres. von Der Leyen: The EU Will Impose a Complete Transaction Ban on Four Major Russian Banks, Including Vtb Bank.
*EC Pres. von Der Leyen: The EU Will Work on New Sanctions, Including Restrictions on Oil Imports.
*EU’s Foreign Min. Borrell: The EU Is Dismissing a Number of Russian Diplomats.

*The Biden Administration Wants to Increase Oil Imports From Canada — WSJ
*The White House Is Still Opposed to Keystone; Alternative Alternatives Include Moving Additional Oil by Rail or Extending Pipeline Capacity Along Current Routes. — WSJ.
*Latvia Closes Down Two Russian Consulates, Expels Their Staff, Latvian Foreign Ministry Says


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*UK’s Foreign Minister Truss: I Will Encourage the G7 to Set a Firm Deadline for Eliminating Russian Oil and Gas Imports.
*UK’s Foreign Minister Truss Will Push the G7 to Pursue New Russian Industries, Such As the Gold Industry.
*UK’s Foreign Minister Truss: We Have Frozen Over $350 Billion of Putin’s War Chest and Made Over 60% of Russia’s Foreign Currency Reserves Unusable.

*Gazprom Russia: Gazprom Germania Needs to Stop Using the Gazprom Brand.
*Some Overnight Gas Has Been Booked on Russia’s Yamal Pipeline for Delivery to Germany.
*Biden to Announce US, UK and Australia Co-Operation on Hypersonic Weapons - FT.
https://www.ft.com/content/b8ddf153-b9ca-4db5-8835-cb8509a9921f

*US Treasury: US Internal Revenue Service Suspends Tax Information Exchange With Russian Tax Authorities.
*US Treasury: The Suspension of Tax Information Is Aimed at Lowering Russian Tax Collections and Funding Available for Moscow’s Invasion of Ukraine.

*Zelenskiy Deputy Chief of Staff Zhovkva: Diplomatic Talks With Russia Must Continue for Peace.
*Zelenskiy Deputy Chief of Staff Zhovkva: Part of Mariupol Is Under Russian Control.
*Zelenskiy Deputy Chief of Staff Zhovkva: There Is No Compromise on Ceding Ukrainian Territory.
*Zelenskiy Deputy Chief of Staff Zhovkva: The Direct Meeting Between Ukraine’s President Zelensky and Putin Will Be Difficult.
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: Russia Aims to Provoke a Global Food Crisis.
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky Tells U.N. Security Council: “The Most Terrible War Crimes” Since World War Two Being Committed in Ukraine
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky Urges U.N. Security Council: To Seek Full Accountability for Russian Actions in Ukraine
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky Tells U.N. Security Council: Russia Wants to Turn Ukraine Into Silent Slaves
*Ukraine’s Zelenskiy Urges Reform for a More Effective United Nations
https://youtu.be/jBPHkJfxvZw - UN Security Council

*Finland to Increase Defense Spending by More Than €2B
*Russia’s U.N. Ambassador Says Ukraine Fabricated Apparent Civilian Deaths — WSJ
*European Union Declared 19 Russia Diplomats Personae Non-Gratae
*Romania Declares 10 Russian Diplomats Personae Non Gratae
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...2-2-billion-defense-spending-in-shadow-of-war

*Foreign Merchant Ship Hit by Russian Missile in Mariupol — Ukrainian Official — RTRS
*Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid: "Russian forces committed war crimes against a defenceless civilian population. I strongly condemn these war crimes" - Reuters News

*Fed’s Brainard Speaks. — Watch Live: https://youtu.be/ApXU8u8-69k
*Fed’s Brainard Speech “Variation in the Inflation Experiences of Households”.
*Fed’s Brainard: Fed Is Prepared to Take Stronger Action if Inflation and Inflation Expectation Indicators Suggest Need for Such Action
*Fed’s Brainard: The Fed Would Methodically Tighten Monetary Policy Through a Series of Rate Hikes, Beginning to Decrease the Balance Sheet at a Rapid Pace As Soon As the May Meeting.
*Fed’s Brainard: I Am Closely Monitoring the Degree of the Shift From Demand for Goods to Demand for Services, As Well As Whether the Service Sector Can Absorb Without Causing Inflationary Pressures.
*Fed’s Brainard: Longer-Term Inflation Forecasts Are Within Historical Ranges.
*Fed’s Brainard: I’m Keeping an Eye on the Yield Curve and Other Data for Signs of Rising Downside Risks to Activity.
*Fed’s Brainard: Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine and China’s Recent Covid Lockdowns Are Likely to Exacerbate Supply Chain Bottlenecks and Pose Growth Threats.
*Fed’s Brainard: Present Inflation Is Far Too High, With Significant Upside Risks.
*Fed’s Brainard: The Cost of Inflation on Lower-Income Households, Those With More Household Members, or Those With Older Family Heads Is Not Reflected in Official Consumer Price Indexes.
*Fed’s Brainard: On the Balance Sheet, I Expect Much Larger Caps and a Much Shorter Period to Phase in Maximum Caps vs in 2017-2019.
*Fed’s Brainard: The Combined Impact of Rate Hikes and Balance-Sheet Reductions Will Move Monetary Policy Closer to Neutral Later This Year.
*Fed’s Brainard: The Fed Is Ready to Take More Aggressive Action if Inflation and Inflation Expectation Indicators Suggest That It Is Necessary.
*Fed’s Brainard: After Policy Becomes More Neutral, the Extent of Additional Tightening Will Be Determined by the Changing Inflation and Employment Outlooks.
*Fed’s Brainard: I Expect the Balance Sheet to Shrink Much Faster Than in Prior Recovery.
*Fed’s Brainard: Over the Past Year, Wages Have Been Rising Considerably.
*Fed’s Brainard: For the Majority of Worker Though, Wage Are Gains Outstripped by Inflation.
*Fed’s Brainard: For the Majority of Worker Though, Wage Gains Outstripped by Inflation.
*Fed’s Brainard: Inflation Is Too High.
*Fed’s Brainard: High Inflation Burdens All Americans.
*Fed’s Brainard: We Must Also Sustain the Recovery to Include Everyone.
*Fed’s Brainard: Lowering Inflation Is Our Most Essential Duty.
*Fed’s Brainard: Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine Will Drive up Food and Gasoline Prices Even More, Against That Background the Fed Will Employ Both Instruments to Combat Excessive Inflation.

*Fed’s George: There Is No Question That Accommodative Policy Must Be Removed.
*Fed’s George: We’ll Have to Think About 50 Basis Points.
*Fed’s George: The Fomc Has to Be Very Deliberate and Intentional.
*Fed’s George: Given the Conditions, It’s Easy to Justify Moving Faster Than Before.
*Fed’s George: We’re Going to Witness a Slowing of Gdp and a Waning of Fiscal Policy.
*Fed’s George: We Want to Watch How Much Traction We Will Get With Rate Hikes.
*Fed’s George: Supply Chains Continue to Be a Challenge for District Contacts.
*Fed’s George: People Despise High Inflation Because It Has a Negative Impact on the Economy.
*The Bank of Spain Expects the Economy to Grow 0.9% in the First Quarter Compared to the Fourth Quarter, With Inflation Remaining at 7.9% in the First Quarter.
*Bank of Spain Sees Eu-Harmonized Inflation at 7.5% in 2022 (Previous Forecast 3.7%), 2% in 2023, 1.6% in 2024.
*Bank of Spain Chief Economist: The Central Scenario Foresees Small Increase in the Second Quarter, but Recession Cannot Be Ruled out Entirely.
 
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Quesation is, what chance of pushing the Soviets out of Ukraine and, recapturing Crimea?

Slim to none, I would think. Ukraine really doesn't have anything that would let them mount an effective assault on Crimea; there's only a very narrow landbridge connecting it to the rest of Ukraine, making an assault immensely difficult without air supremacy and amphibious landing capability. Even in the Donbas, Russia has been digging in for years. Attack those places and the defenders' advantage that has favoured Ukraine so far flips. The military aim for Ukraine is essentially to batter Russian troops so much and push them back so far that they will agree an actual ceasefire on terms acceptable to Ukraine.
 
maybe it's my naivety but why is that fat **** allowed to sit in the UN and tell blatant lies. i know the UN can be a bit of a talking shop but surely when someone starts telling blatant lies they should be challenged on it by the chair (or whatever it's called)
 
Quesation is, what chance of pushing the Soviets out of Ukraine and, recapturing Crimea?

That will depend on factors such as how long they want to keep fighting and how much outside support they receive. Taking back Crimea looks to be quite a challenge though. Who knows what may happen in Russia as the impact of sanctions grows and Russian soldiers continue to die. Will Putin maintain control and double down in Ukraine, could he finally feel pressured to stop, or could there even be regime change?
 
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