Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Hopefully, `cause it's a lost cause, an idealistic liberal dream. If anything comes out of the Chinese virus and this situation in Ukraine, I hope it's a realization borders are something precious, no, essential, to man and beast. Sod holidays in the sun and "seeing distant lands", cheap copies of goods financed in development by the West, and lapped up by those so blind as to see where this has now left us.

A lot of the world's problems came about alongside cheap global travel. The airliner, which was initially available only for the wealthy, but soon became the norm for the great unwashed, spread dissatisfaction with one's lot, and recently of course, lethal disease across the globe.

Be self sufficient, on a personal, localised and national level. Work for one's owns benefit, not this globalisation dream that has been found wanting and even dangerous. Accept that economic migrancy wants kicking into touch, don't be so wet as to give up what we have worked for.

And get the bloody population of the world down, a lot, and as quickly as can be, outside of openly killing people. There are still people in Shropshire and probably most rural counties that have never been beyond the county borders, and I would suggest they are no less happy than a multi holiday a year international tourist.

Locally I have never seen so much farming movement to crop growing, the roads are choc a bloc with muck spreading tankers, and fields that for years were just wild places are suddenly now being ploughed ready for planting. At least our wonderful farmers are taking the threat of serious shortages to heart (and probably to the bank... ;)). I hope something positive can come from Mr. Putin's realisation that it's worth creating a "no man's land" for their sovereign protection. A look at what the EU has allowed, security and ethnically wise, is enough to worry anyone not wanting to see their country go the same way. Inevitable really, IMHO.
If anything, it. Might strengthen trade agreements with China as nations turn their back on Russia. I don't think globalisation is disappearing anywhere.
 
Big shots fired by China:

[Apr 05 2022, 13:35:02 EST]: IN RESPONSE TO U.S., UK, AUSTRALIA HYPERSONIC WEAPONS DEAL, CHINA'S U.N. ENVOY WARNS AGAINST 'THINGS WHICH MAY LEAD OTHER PARTS OF WORLD INTO CRISIS' LIKE UKRAINE

Not particularly, that's just good old fashioned, vague enough to be semi threatening sabre rattling. I miss the days when it was just that to be honest.
 
Not particularly, that's just good old fashioned, vague enough to be semi threatening sabre rattling. I miss the days when it was just that to be honest.

Their response came literally 40 minutes after that weapons deal, they're all (NATO) trying to catch up to China on these hypersonic missiles.
 
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Is this war the end of globalization? me reckons good ol Europe should reclaim its industrial past and become self sufficient in just about everything.

We're happy for "slaves" to work away in China for a pittance if it means we get cheap goods. Can't imagine an iPhone will be cheap when Dave is on £12 an hour and Chinwan is on about 30p.
 
I just edited the relevant part of what you posted? I didn't intend anything by that, just added my thoughts on the retreat.
You quoted the wrong person, read the post again. It might be a forum bug I had it happen a few months ago where it changed the user name of a post that I quoted to someone else.
 
— Bloomberg (CET Time)

*Ukrainian Officials Detail More Atrocities in Bucha
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*U.S. Military Training Ukrainian Soldiers in New Weaponry, Austin Says
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*Ukrainian Military Says Russia Still Committed to Control of Donetsk, Luhansk
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*JPMorgan Is Allowing Holders of Depositary Receipts Issued by Russian Corporations to Cancel Them. — Source
*JPMorgan Lets Depositary Receipt Holders in Russian Cos. Cancel — RTRS

*Senators to Biden: Lift US Tariffs on Ukrainian Steel.
*Russia’s Effort to Avoid Default Undermined by New U.S. Sanction — BBG
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...f-russian-reserves-in-the-u-s-as-war-drags-on

*Russia says prevented Ukraine officers fleeing Mariupol by air — AFP
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1511423957597134854
 
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Is this war the end of globalization? me reckons good ol Europe should reclaim its industrial past and become self sufficient in just about everything.

no, it the oposite of the end of globalization. The whole globe is getting together in support, realigning supply chains to cut out Russia
 
Rumors suggesting Ukraine has turned one of the TOS-1A launchers around and used it to disable/destroy a Russian BTG.

Havent found any confirmation yet but would be some karma right there if true.
 
We're happy for "slaves" to work away in China for a pittance if it means we get cheap goods. Can't imagine an iPhone will be cheap when Dave is on £12 an hour and Chinwan is on about 30p.

I am bored of the iphone argument, there are a million stuff our lives depend on. I couldnt give a flying cow about iphones. I for one prefer an expensive product that will last rather than one use chinese crap.
 
the dominoes are starting to fall for Russia now. They are getting spanked, and need to leave areas they know they will lose anyway.

The have picked the Dombas as their Alamo. Supplies will be running out so they have no choice, they are not leaving because they want to the need to.

If Ukrain get get the equipment needed to make the sky's a little safer then they will have a great chance of pusing them back to square one,

As for Crimes the yes it's probably a bridge to far, but what if they are running short on supplies there too, it's alreadt disputed, will the Russians Crimea be able to kold it if they can't get supplied?

Who know Ukrain may see this as a golden opportunity to rid them once and for all. They have suffered terribly, can they get pay back, lets hope so.
 
Rumors suggesting Ukraine has turned one of the TOS-1A launchers around and used it to disable/destroy a Russian BTG.

Havent found any confirmation yet but would be some karma right there if true.

What rumours? From where? Could you post a link please?
 
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