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So if everyone is charging their car and running everything else at 4am, does 4am become the new peak time ?
That is many many many years away.
They never turned up to fit my smart meter
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That is many many many years away.
We’re having this problem but with bathroom skirting. I had arranged for them to come tomorrow but the whole house has covid so will be rearranged.
Much as I’d love to bury my head in the sand about this, if we’re serious about an electric car in the future we’d be crazy not to get one fitted.
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You don't need to have an IHD if you have a smart meter. I've never used mine. If you're happy with your dumb meter then that's cool. Unfortunately you're wrong though regarding how useful they are in enabling huge savings on electric bills.
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Feel sorry for those with smart meters tbh; absolutely no opportunity for them to 'massage' their readings to extract maximum value/take the edge off the price cliffs.
Have you enabled large savings through having a smart meter?
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Heh
Your lucky they did that. I had a lot of trouble with N.Power when my meter went faulty and they never bothered to show up or went to the wrong address. I never got anything from them until I complained and kicked up a big stink about it because they kept wasting my time and they wanted me to pay for there parking plus they wanted to charge me for a new meter. After I made several complaints they gave me 30 pounds. They moved to E.ON not long ago.Time line 12.00 till 4.00 -Got in garage -shifted all junk off shelves -cleaned everything then did a few bits and pieces- no show - went in for cup tea went back in garage and did some more tidying up -4.00 put eveything back went in and ping -got a text -sorry can't make it - well I was starting to boil and ping -sorry we couldn't make it so we have credited your account with £30.
They can do this a few times if they want.
this is a very short term game that your provider will be easily to work out. Bills are going up again in October then agin in April then…. How much are you going to forward load your reading?
If a smart meter helps you manage your usage and “exploit” (us as intended) smart tariff then you would be foolish not to get one.
I am getting solar in a few weeks and am toying with going with Octopus Agile to maximise export profit.
I’m saving more legitimately by charging my car overnight with my Smart Meter, then you are saving by ‘illegally’ submitting incorrect readings. I also have my dishwasher, washing machine and soon battery storage running on 7.5p kWh.
Don’t feel sorry for me - I’m saving money and happy. I feel sorry for you, that you have a view which will impact your ability to save money.
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And that data is quite important (especially going forward) to doing things like working out provisioning for additional capacity, surge capacity and things like "battery storage" for an area to smooth out supply during short periods of high demand (we've got such a facility because it was considerably cheaper and much faster for the supply company to build than another high voltage backbone connection).
It also makes it much easier to catch people who are fiddling with their supplies.
Exactly - it tends to be the people with something to hide that don’t like submitting their use patterns, funny that
It's completely irrelevant anyway, despite @john_smith 's inability to explain something like an adult, a smart meter doesn't suddenly make your electricity cheaper. All it does is monitor usage so you can fine-tune your demands.
If you know when leccy is cheaper and program your stuff to charge / run during those times then it's job done. A smart meter will make it easier but it's by no means the solution.
You can do the same by using a simple clamp meter which graphs energy consumption for £lol.
It's actually quite fun too and you can go as granular as you want. My last building was 23 floors and it had over 2000 energy meters, the things you could do with it were fantastic (and often a pita).
So how does a smart meter make electricity cheaper? What can a smart meter achieve that a regular meter can't?
You have an In Home Display (IHD) which tells you your energy usage .
A Smart meter tells the energy supplier what and when you are using energy. This means you can go onto a time of use energy tariff. I think currently these are limited to EV charging use, but will change in the future for specific rates at certain times for anyone.
Until the world went utter crazy, and prior to my solar install being complete, having a smart meter meant I was often getting paid actual money to use electricity, and if not getting paid was spending 1-5ppkWh on a regular basis. Totally great, I think I got paid ~£1.30 to charge my car one night. Now I have Solar+battery, so it's great for ensuring I get a cheap re-fill on the pack if the suns not been shining, or it's winter.
Cheers, I'm fixed for another 4 months but will definitely think about the time of use ET, I've been thinking about battery storage.
Is this the idea that you over report your usage before rates go up?
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Yes
If I didn’t have a smart meter I wouldn’t and couldn’t be paying 5p/unit for electric.
thanks.
I thought penalty charge if they were a no show meter install was more like £100 - didn't the government mandate it ? esp if you've taken holiday to attend.
there's an earlier thread discussing multiple payments someone had had.
Energy rationing, as they are discussing in Germany .. with a smart meter I'd now be concerned that they could override the meter or impose surge pricing to implement that.
there's an earlier thread discussing multiple payments someone had had.
Energy rationing, as they are discussing in Germany .. with a smart meter I'd now be concerned that they could override the meter or impose surge pricing to implement that.