Water meter Install Groan.
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Yeah i realised our water costs don't include any sewage as we've got a septic tank and all our drain pipes go into a soak away so that might make ours look cheaper than it is. It's about £120 to get our tank emptied every 4 years so our £17 a month is more like £19.50 plus whatever rain water costs you compared to a normally connected house i guess.
Re: fixing waste water pipes, they repaired ours by going down the storm drain entrance with sections of resin-soaked material, then inflating a "balloon" inside to press them up against the inside of the leaking pipe until it set. No disruption, and third time they got it right
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The water companies have all made good progress in regards leaks. For the wrong reasons, but they have made progress none the less.
The right reasons would be that leaking water is wasteful, but thats not why they have done it.
They have done it since their ability to put up prices is capped, by fixing leaks they lower their running costs (less water to pump and treat, no need for increased capacity etc), and hence increase profits.
The water system just like most other ex nationalised systems in the UK suffers from a historic vast underinvestment, again like most left relying on mainly victorian systems.
Its my biggest consideration when people talk of nationalisation (I am generally pro this for these sectors) in that you then in effect risk government taking the short term position yet again, to not invest in these infrastructure areas since they will not see the benefit within that parliamentary term.
Now the water companies aren't that much better but the people at the top are generally more capable than the likes of Patel or Grayling who you would risk turning into the decision makers.
The right reasons would be that leaking water is wasteful, but thats not why they have done it.
They have done it since their ability to put up prices is capped, by fixing leaks they lower their running costs (less water to pump and treat, no need for increased capacity etc), and hence increase profits.
The water system just like most other ex nationalised systems in the UK suffers from a historic vast underinvestment, again like most left relying on mainly victorian systems.
Its my biggest consideration when people talk of nationalisation (I am generally pro this for these sectors) in that you then in effect risk government taking the short term position yet again, to not invest in these infrastructure areas since they will not see the benefit within that parliamentary term.
Now the water companies aren't that much better but the people at the top are generally more capable than the likes of Patel or Grayling who you would risk turning into the decision makers.
Our bill comes to about £90 give or take a little bit every 6 months. 2 adults no children. We use a dishwasher to do our dishes and shower only. Use a water butt to top up our pond, water the plants and to wash our car.
The problem with water (and gas) leaks is the tech is there and proven* to ensure new installations are done correctly, and the tech is there to monitor existing installs for leaks (data loggers/hydroponic microphones that stream to the cloud) but the water companies don't want to pay to use it. The worst part being they often pay far more in fines for leaks, or from having to dig up roads constantly etc, that it would cost to pay for a monitoring system upfront.
* I've worked on it for the past 10 years, the industry has got a lot better in this time. We're now using AI to analyse photos (taken by installers) to detect quality issues instantly, right before the point of actual installation to prevent it.
Here's an offtake likely going to someone's house from this morning for example that got AI QA'd before they even tapped through into the mains pipe on the right. It really couldn't be simpler. The AI drew these labelled boxes around things its looking for.
It's not that simple I agree. But surely a lot of the increase in costs is pretty well covered by the population density. a lot of the time things are more expensive in London just because *shrug*. I also don't think the salary difference is what it used to be, certainly doesn't make a dent after you take into account the increased living costs.
We've switched to a water meter in our new house. Girlfriend was panicking it was going to costs loads more but it seems ok so far I think. But we're very careful about usage.
Showering/bathing everyday is a relatively modern idea and considered unnecessary and even detrimental by a lot of health experts.A new meaning of the “the great unwashed”
Privatised in a market with zero competition, basically a license to print money.
I think a lot of people find them cheaper initially as you are naturally more worries about usage a bit like when you first get a smart meter and the challenge to get the usage down in slightly fun then after awhile
you relax, stop taking those military showers and the usage goes up again.
Are the costs that people are quoting for their water meter usage including the standard water piping and sewage management costs that are automatically included in the water rates? Cause i was offered a water meter and when i ran the numbers it wasnt worth me getting the meter!
Mine does yes, for the entire bill it works out at £3.95 per m3 including sewage and surface water drainage since my roof goes directly into the drain. Usage was 0.35m3 per day for 2 adults and 1 child. That overall price per m3 will change depending on what you use because of standing charges but i think our usage is more or less reflective of most people in similar situation. It comes out to £34 a month. 2 showers everyday, I do take 15 minute showers in the morning with a rainfall head and my wife occasially has baths in the evening. Also we don't use a dishwasher and i'm terrible for water use while doing dishes so theres a lot of waste there too.
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2 adults 2 children, foster placement at times too.
Dishwasher on most days, multiple baths/showers each day, washing machine on pretty much every day, pressure washer jobby for the car/bikes, 840L spapool thing refilled a few times a year.
We pay about £40 a month... moving to a new build with a water meter think were gonna have to reign it in a bit lol
Dishwasher on most days, multiple baths/showers each day, washing machine on pretty much every day, pressure washer jobby for the car/bikes, 840L spapool thing refilled a few times a year.
We pay about £40 a month... moving to a new build with a water meter think were gonna have to reign it in a bit lol
Try to hold off getting a meter as long as you can. I'm paying £80 a month, double that of my neighbours. Despite me complaining that the meter must be faulty, Yorkshire Water are adamant that it's not. Nothing I can do about it either apart from taking no more showers!
Turn your supply off on your incoming water feed then look at your meter which should have stopped. If not you potentially have a leak somewhere between the meter and your stop ****.
Jesus Christ how much water do you use? Ours is under £200 for a year.
I just filled the questionnaire in, how many showers, what type of shower, baths, car washing per week, patio cleaning a year, watering the garden, washing machine, washing the dishes, toilet flushes per day.