Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[dowie]

The literal point of green energy is to make this sustainable. Get the green stuff right and we have all the energy we need.

Which is the problem with Green Parties across the world: tiresome ignorance and the naturalist fallacy writ large. My wife is a member of the Grün party here, and I agree with her views, but I can't forgive politicians who advocated so hard against nuclear and GM while professing green values for their utter stupidity.

Yup, pretty much. Wind, solar, etc.. is rather variable, we need a good dependable green energy source that's perhaps supplemented by other alternatives such as wind, solar etc... and that's nuclear.

There is some bizarre hippie BS, especially in places like Germany, that results in opposition to nuclear even though it's a good dependable source of power.

Sadly a direct result of that has been Germany closing down its nuclear plants and becoming so reliant on Russian gas exports.

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

Greece agreed to provide 110 russian made APC's (BMP's) to Ukraine in exchange for 110 MARDER APC's, from the German reserves.

 

[Hotwired]

Greece agreed to provide 110 russian made APC's (BMP's) to Ukraine in exchange for 110 MARDER APC's, from the German reserves.

Sounds like an easy decision to make

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

Sounds like an easy decision to make

Its not, bad timing. This summer or autumn war will break out in the Aegean.

 

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31-May-2022 15:55:30 - *Russia’s Gazprom Exports: Will Cut Off Supplies to Shell Energy Europe Limited on June 1
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31-May-2022 17:33:27 - *Governor of Ukraine’s Luhansk Region: Russian Airstrike Hit Nitric Acid Tank in Sievierodonetsk, Warns of Toxic Fumes Risk
31-May-2022 18:29:01 - *Governor of Ukraine’s Luhansk Province: Russian Forces Control Most of Sievierodonetsk, Says City Is Not Surrounded

31-May-2022 17:47:19 - *Senior U.N. Official Had ‘Constructive Discussions’ in Moscow on Facilitating Russian Grain, Fertilizer Exports — U.N. Spokesman
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Spoiler: *Berlin to supply arms to Greece, Athens to deliver Soviet weapons to Kyiv -Scholz — RTRS

31-May-2022 19:00:19 - *OPEC Weighs Suspending Russia From Oil-Production Deal — WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/opec-weighs-suspending-russia-from-oil-production-deal-11654019943

31-May-2022 19:21:40 - *U.S. State Department Spokesperson: U.S. Remains Concerned Over Russian Attempt to Institutionalize Control Over Sovereign Ukraine Territory in Particular Kherson
31-May-2022 19:27:02 - *U.S. State Department Spokesperson, When Asked About New Security Assistance for Ukraine, Says “You Will Be Hearing From US Before Too Long”

 

[potatolord]

Its not, bad timing. This summer or autumn war will break out in the Aegean.

Why do you think that? I'm guessing "the turks"?

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

Why do you think that? I'm guessing "the turks"?

Dendias slams Cavusoglu’s latest challenge to Greek sovereignty over Aegean islands | in.gr

Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis briefed fellow EU leaders at a summit in Brussels today on Turkey’s provocations and threats against Greece's sovereignty.

www.in.gr

have a look. Its been going on for years, now i believe its time for show time. And it will be a spectacular one.

WOW news are coming in at a fast pace, Greek navy chose Type 31 frigates , 4 are to be bought! Talking about a shopping spree lol

 

[potatolord]

Dendias slams Cavusoglu’s latest challenge to Greek sovereignty over Aegean islands | in.gr

Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis briefed fellow EU leaders at a summit in Brussels today on Turkey’s provocations and threats against Greece's sovereignty.

www.in.gr

have a look. Its been going on for years, now i believe its time for show time. And it will be a spectacular one.

WOW news are coming in at a fast pace, Greek navy chose Type 31 frigates , 4 are to be bought! Talking about a shopping spree lol

As much as it pains me to say it, Turkey would batter Greece.

It would be rather a quandary for NATO...

 

[Craterloads]

Where are Greece getting the money for said shopping spree? I thought they were broke and getting hand outs recently.

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

As much as it pains me to say it, Turkey would batter Greece.

It would be rather a quandary for NATO...

I wouldnt be so sure, i have seen the Turks during exercises and they arent anything special tbh.

 

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31-May-2022 20:12:46 - *White House: Sending Rocket Systems to Ukraine Are Still Under Consideration
31-May-2022 20:13:29 - *White House: U.S. Won’t Send Long-Range Rockets for Use Beyond Ukraine

31-May-2022 20:46:22 - *Ukraine President Zelenskiy: Country’s Forces Have Had Some Successes Near Kherson, Made Progress in Kharkiv Region, Are Holding Back Russians in Zaporizhzhia Region
31-May-2022 20:48:07 - *Ukraine President Zelenskiy: Russian Army Still Has a Significant Advantage in Equipment And Numbers

31-May-2022 21:05:25 - *Ukrainian Officials Report ‘Shutdown of All Communications’ in Russian-Occupied Kherson Region

 

[Scougar]

I wouldnt be so sure, i have seen the Turks during exercises and they arent anything special tbh.

I lived in Cyprus when I was a kid. Let's just say I favor the Greeks. A tragedy the way that went.

Anywho.. right now, they are our allies.

 

[Harlequin]

As much as it pains me to say it, Turkey would batter Greece.

It would be rather a quandary for NATO...

*Again - wev`e been here before, literally 100 years ago as well. ALl it would take is attacks into Armenia and Azerbajan and it literally would be a repeat of the Ottoman Genocides.

 

[Scougar]

Awesome... media announcing that Poland are delivery howitzers.. and the exact number of them. fantastic. Now the ruskies know where they are likely to be coming from, and how many to look for in a strike. This constant coverage is a blessing and a curse.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

I lived in Cyprus when I was a kid. Let's just say I favor the Greeks. A tragedy the way that went.

Anywho.. right now, they are our allies.

So are the Turks, and therein lies a problem, can we come to the aid of NATO country when its attached by... another NATO country? Wonder what the treaty has to say about that.

 

[Scougar]

So are the Turks, and therein lies a problem, can we come to the aid of NATO country when its attached by... another NATO country? Wonder what the treaty has to say about that.

Yes... Right now, the Turks are our ally. I was actually surprised to learn they were part of NATO.

 

[Thekwango]

So are the Turks, and therein lies a problem, can we come to the aid of NATO country when its attached by... another NATO country? Wonder what the treaty has to say about that.

Surely the attacker would be immediately ejected from Nato making them ‘fair game’ Unless it was ok’d by the rest of NATO in which case I imagine the country being attacked would have been expelled. Only guessing mind you.

 

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01-Jun-2022 00:49:19 - *Biden: U.S. Will Provide Ukraine With More Advanced Rocket Systems and Munitions — NYT Op-Ed
01-Jun-2022 00:51:16 - *Biden: “We Do Not Seek a War Between NATO and Russia”
01-Jun-2022 00:52:04 - *Biden: The United States Will Not Try to Bring About Putin’s Ouster in Moscow
01-Jun-2022 00:52:43 - *Biden: “So Long As the United States or Our Allies Are Not Attacked, We Will Not Be Directly Engaged in This Conflict”
01-Jun-2022 00:53:18 - *Biden: “We Are Not Encouraging or Enabling Ukraine To Strike Beyond Its Borders”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/opinion/biden-ukraine-strategy.html

 

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01-Jun-2022 00:49:19 - *Biden: U.S. Will Provide Ukraine With More Advanced Rocket Systems and Munitions — NYT Op-Ed

01-Jun-2022 01:06:01 - *U.S. Senior Administration Official: New U.S. Weapons Package to Ukraine Includes High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS)
01-Jun-2022 01:06:01 - *U.S. Senior Administration Official: Ukraine Will Not Use HIMARS Rocket System on Targets in Russia
01-Jun-2022 01:06:01 - *U.S. Senior Administration Official: U.S. Will Not Encourage Ukraine to Make Territorial Concessions

01-Jun-2022 01:04:10 - *Russia: Foreign Minister Lavrov Met Saudi Counterpart on Tues, Says Both Men Praised Level of Cooperation in OPEC+
01-Jun-2022 01:05:04 - *Russia: Foreign Minister Lavrov and Saudi Counterpart Noted Stabilising Effect That Tight Russia-Saudi Coordination Has on Global Hydrocarbon Market

 

[Grim5]

Direct quote from Biden released a few minutes ago to the New York times

"I’ve decided that we will provide the Ukrainians advanced rocket systems and munitions that will enable them to more precisely strike key targets on the battlefield in Ukraine.

We do not seek a war between NATO and Russia. As much as I disagree with Mr. Putin, and find his actions an outrage, the United States will not try to bring about his ouster in Moscow. So long as the United States or our allies are not attacked, we will not be directly engaged in this conflict, either by sending American troops to fight in Ukraine or by attacking Russian forces. We are not encouraging or enabling Ukraine to strike beyond its borders. We do not want to prolong the war just to inflict pain on Russia."