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Yep already added that particular individual to the old ignore list for spouting nonsense here
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Yep already added that particular individual to the old ignore list for spouting nonsense here
Realistically, I don't see how Turkey can not do this. What are they supposed to do? They need grain so people can eat. They can't refuse to buy from Russia on the basis that it may be mixing in stolen grain.
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Weird you seem to spend more time complaining about turkey than you do about Russia in a thread about the Ukraine / Russian war. Appears you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder./cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/XJY35435VRPYDBSZ6TJMLAITVQ.jpg)
Ukraine envoy says Turkey among destinations of grain stolen by Russia
Kyiv's ambassador to Ankara said on Friday Turkish buyers were among those receiving grain that Russia stole from Ukraine, adding he has sought Turkey's help to identify and capture individuals responsible for the shipments.www.reuters.com
i am quite angry at both NATO and the EU, while Europe is bleeding dry from sanctions etc, the turkish behave as if business as usual and nobody bats an eyelid.
you do know the Turks are fighting a war already? How’s the Alliance? Or is this only an alliance when you expect something? Get a grip.
Some countries of the EU (which Turkey isn’t in- prevented from being in) have strong sanctions. Some don’t.
Some NATO nations have supplied arms. Some haven’t.
Sovereign nation??? Na.
Considering the farcical level of inflation in Turkey I cannot say that I am remotely surprised and even less so since Erdogan is desperate to play down his nonsensical fiscal policies in the run up to a precarious election.Ukraine envoy says Turkey among destinations of grain stolen by Russia
Kyiv's ambassador to Ankara said on Friday Turkish buyers were among those receiving grain that Russia stole from Ukraine, adding he has sought Turkey's help to identify and capture individuals responsible for the shipments.
i am quite angry at both NATO and the EU, while Europe is bleeding dry from sanctions etc, the turkish behave as if business as usual and nobody bats an eyelid.
Fact is that Turkey is currently in a position to exploit it's relationships and for the sake of the cold, geopolitical argument it would be a wasted opportunity if they didn't do it. I would hope it will be repaid in some form eventually.
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The turks are messing up, not my fault. They are on the news for apparently the foul reasons.
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Where are they fighting a war already?
Seriously?
The Kurds. Only 40 years. Not important to you as an alliance member obs?
Reminder… NATO isn’t at war. So every country can decide to back one state or another or back neither. As they are their own nations. Not yours. Not Boris’s.
They have their own big boy pants.
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Thats not a war though, it is an inner conflict and afaik turks dont wish any foreign mix in their internal affairs. Now tell us about the long history of discrimination perpetrated against them by the Turkish government, or the numerous massacres orchestrated by the turkish governments. Not important to you a human being i guess?
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We'll probably see more cracks in the sanctions as time passes. People have to eat.
Russian is one of the world's premier kleptocracies, so everyone there is at it: looting soldiers, oligarchs, grain merchants, etc. Almost everybody.Ukraine envoy says Turkey among destinations of grain stolen by Russia
Kyiv's ambassador to Ankara said on Friday Turkish buyers were among those receiving grain that Russia stole from Ukraine, adding he has sought Turkey's help to identify and capture individuals responsible for the shipments.
i am quite angry at both NATO and the EU, while Europe is bleeding dry from sanctions etc, the turkish behave as if business as usual and nobody bats an eyelid.
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The front line in 1st June Severodonetsk
The front line today
Images taken from DeepState Map
Western Artilary systems finally making there presence felt?
The front line today
Images taken from DeepState Map
Western Artilary systems finally making there presence felt?
Yawn…You support terrorists. Still banned and illegal to support in the UK. Careful now.
Or that Turkey had something slightly closer to home to worry about than your feelings about the Ukraine. Maybe if you took their concerns seriously Finland/Sweden then the Alliance might be more beneficial?
These obligations to allies are always one way? Their needs dismissed. Your needs hyper important.The very point I made.
Which is why sanctions needed to be thought through sensibly rather than just reactionary blocking of everything Russia. Sanctions are a long term process not a quick fix.
This would also play into russian propaganda as it would show US dictacting internal policy.
Its a common misconception that Russia is keeping its best equipment in reserve and some how only used `old kit`.
They didnt.
T80BVM and T72B3 are both from 2013 , T90MS is 2018. This is literally their latest kit. According to some source T-14 production has stopped and T90 production has slowed, resulting in the modernisation programme of T72`s and reactivation of T64`s.
They didnt.
T80BVM and T72B3 are both from 2013 , T90MS is 2018. This is literally their latest kit. According to some source T-14 production has stopped and T90 production has slowed, resulting in the modernisation programme of T72`s and reactivation of T64`s.
Some videos like this emerging seeming to show Russia moving armour and equipment towards the border in north eastern Ukraine - possibly going to have another try at the capital from that side and/or trying to pull Ukrainian forces away from the Donbas and other areas.
I've not seen anyone saying they are only using old kit. What people seem to be missing is the actual composition of what is being fielded. Very little initially was pulled out of Russia's maintained reserve stock, despite the claims, and they've been conservative in many cases fielding newer/regular active stock.
Hence for instance T-72 models which only exist in maintained reserve stock are only appearing now, BMPTs are only appearing now, etc.
Russian put several programs into place over the last few years to take older mothballed stock and reactivate it - this is generally separate stock to for instance the ~400-500 active T-80s and 3000 in reserve and make up a good percentage of the hardware used in this invasion and/or was sent to other regions so as to replace older active hardware to use for this invasion.
Point being people often band around that this war equates to, so far, Russia losing 1300-1400 of its pre-war ~2800 active tanks and 3000 of its ~13000 active armoured vehicles, etc. when it really isn't what is going on here.
It is a bit difficult to accurately compare how many of its soldier losses deplete from the pre-war ~900K active soldiers, but again people talk like this invasion has committed 200K men from that number and it really hasn't.
EDIT: This is further complicated by for instance it appears they've raided the reserve stock so as to reactive even older hardware in many cases and many of their elite guards divisions, etc. which were supposed to be at 80% standing readiness in reality were around 50% with often around 30% of their on paper numbers already committed to regions like Georgia, etc. so losses have had a big impact on their ability to function.
EDIT2: Was just reading reports that some Russian brigades have in some cases lost over 500 soldiers in 72 hours (out of a deployed strength of ~700 - 20-30% of their total size) - in comparison those brigades in brutal street fighting in Grozny lost 100-150 soldiers in several weeks of fighting...
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On another note equipment continues to move in Belarus (for instance https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1532320736483975168 ) - not quite sure what to make of it - maybe just exercises but seems like Lukashenko has been given his orders to move into western Ukraine to try and cut off NATO supplies next time Russia moves on Kyiv maybe. I'm not sure how that would go down internally in Belarus if the order was given.
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A bit optimistic to think Russia can have another crack at Kyiv just yet given the slow progress in the east. Could be a faint to lock Ukrainian units into securing the northern border and prevent them from reinforcing the east or being moved into counter offensives in the south.
Lukashenko maybe be in Putin's pocket but he's not foolish enough to risk his army to invade Ukraine. His army is the only thing between him and spending the rest of his days in prison, why risk it?
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