Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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RobHu said:
I really doubt anyone seriously believes a single fighter pilot shot down whole squadrons of enemy planes!
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You can doubt it all you like, its been posted repeatedly so you're wrong
RobHu said:
Funny that you don't seem to question Russian propaganda :cry:.
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but i did if you searched through my history in this thread you would have seen that so you're wrong again

Use more smileys i heard they work like ice cream
 
Amnesia said:
Its been posted several times, even as far as around a week or two ago, I've never seen you question these ridiculous claims people keep making. You make it sound in your post as if you aren't that stupid to fall for it yet you become very silent when the posts are made.
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I'm not aware of anyone posting it as a serious post?

PS Your logic is broken - not responding doesn't in any way equate to believing something - no wonder you are easily convinced by the pro-Russian propaganda.
 
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andybird123 said:
Ukraine have plenty of reservists, what they lack is equipment, it is only in the last few weeks that they've been standing up new battalions to be able to fight because they now have the equipment to equip them with.
Ukraine had something like 900k reservists before they even started just conscripting any men of fighting age, there aren't anywhere ebar 900k Ukrainians on the front lines.
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Can't remember exact numbers but IIRC Ukraine has something like 200-220K regular (including security forces), 76K territorial and 13-17K irregular/volunteer not yet part of territorial, etc. soldiers deployed due to various reasons - more are working in support roles, there are far more volunteering to fight than they can utilise as well as equipping them.

EDIT: Also we very rarely see videos, etc. from the regular army fighting - 90% of the stuff which has emerged so far are territorial or volunteer units.
 
According to Amnesia, we are all just too hard on the Russian's and there is no reason to dislike them /rolleyes. Clearly they are just misunderstood, and 100% not just flat out murdering Ukrainian's, because they are trying to take back former Glory (regardless of the fact that Ukraine pre-dates Russia).

They want the land/resources and the strategic placement of Ukraine. They would take other countries as well if they thought they could get away with it.

All hail Russia.. the saviour's of the real free world /sarcasm. (Free is the exact opposite of everything they stand for.)
 
Amnesia said:
You can doubt it all you like, its been posted repeatedly so you're wrong

but i did if you searched through my history in this thread you would have seen that so you're wrong again

Use more smileys i heard they work like ice cream
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If there are people genuinely believing such rubbish then they must possess a similar level of critical thinking as you. If you questioned Russian propaganda you wouldn't mindlessly repeat stuff like 'Azov regiment using civilians as human shields' nor would you claim a lot of the people fighting for Ukraine are civilians that have been forced into fighting. Every post you make is just embarrassing at this point honestly. You pop in every few weeks parroting some nonsense you've read and then dip out after being shown to be wrong, again. It’s almost like you have…amnesia. :cry:
 
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Rroff said:
I'm not aware of anyone posting it as a serious post?

PS Your logic is broken - not responding doesn't in any way equate to believing something - no wonder you are easily convinced by the pro-Russian propaganda.
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You repeatedly claim I'm posting Russian propaganda yet fail to show which part of my post is Russian propaganda.
Now you are also not aware of people posting these far fetched twitter posts as serious ? so when its a caught out lie its a joke and if its the truth then its news ? then you claim its only the Russians coming out with rubbish.
 
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RobHu said:
If there are people genuinely believing such rubbish then they must possess a similar level of critical thinking as you. If you questioned Russian propaganda you wouldn't mindlessly repeat stuff like 'Azov regiment using civilians as human shields' nor would you claim a lot of the people fighting for Ukraine are civilians that have been forced into fighting. Every post you make is just embarrassing at this point honestly. You pop in every few weeks parroting some nonsense you've read and then dip out after being shown to be wrong, again. It’s almost like you have…amnesia. :cry:
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Azov fighters did use human shields

Also Ukrainian civilians have been forced to fight, they didn't go pick a fight with Russia, they were invaded and are forced to defend their country.
 
Scougar said:
According to Amnesia, we are all just too hard on the Russian's and there is no reason to dislike them /rolleyes. Clearly they are just misunderstood
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Please use the quote feature so people can see which post you are referring to.

I won't hold my breath on this one lol.
 
Define the context of 'forced'.

You implied the mariupol defenders used civilians as human shields. As mentioned earlier in this thread, there is ZERO value in doing that, as the Russians don't give a hoot and will shoot/bomb anything.

Second, trying to justify the invasion by Russia based on one battalion of potential bad apples is just comical. We have football hooligans in this country, we have communist party and we have Nazis. That doesn't make the majority of football fans evil, the entire of politics to be compromised or the entire country facist.
 
Amnesia said:
Now you are also not aware of people posting these far fetched twitter posts as serious ? so when its a lie its a joke and if its the truth then its news ? then you claim its only the Russians coming out with rubbish.
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I said show me where someone has posted about the ghost of Kyiv as a serious post recently - the most recent post was obviously meant humorously and not saying the pilot involved was the ghost of Kyiv.

I can see why most posters don't take you seriously.
 
Amnesia said:
Please use the quote feature so people can see which post you are referring to.

I won't hold my breath on this one lol.
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No thanks, I won't waste my time on this **** too much. You already took the thread away from a people defending their homeland, to you trying to sympathise with Russia. Go wash your soul.
 
Amnesia said:
Azov fighters did use human shields

Also Ukrainian civilians have been forced to fight, they didn't go pick a fight with Russia, they were invaded and are forced to defend their country.
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Hardcore elements of Azov have form for it - but largely that is manipulation of the facts in this case - usually Russia trying to deflect from where they have bombed civilians intentionally or unintentionally... (you might want to look at the history of Azov, the real history, before getting on too high a horse in this respect anyhow).

Meanwhile Russia will quite happily shell humanitarian corridors even after they've given assurances...
 
Scougar said:
No thanks, I won't waste my time on this **** too much. You already took the thread away from a people defending their homeland, to you trying to sympathise with Russia. Go wash your soul.
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So you make these lies about me and my posts and when I ask you to show me where I said any of it that's when you decide you don't want to talk any further......sounds about right.
 
Rroff said:
you might want to look at the history of Azov, the real history
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Rroff said:
Yeah... now go back a bit more...



Russia's claims are basically close to Ukrainians = Nazis... which isn't remotely true - there is a far right problem in the country but it is still a tiny minority.
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But I wasn't going by Russias claims, I clearly used the same source and what is usually regarded as the most trusted in the UK.
I was exposing the spin that is getting put on the coverage of this war from our media.
It was the BBC who claimed Ukraines government had links to neo-nazis.

Btw I didn't miss the point you made, I see it and agree with it but it's not really a response to my post as mine was about the media spin.
 
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