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Ahleckz said:
The trouble is I thought you used to be a decent, respected poster. I thought you posted good, informed, reasoned posts in a wide variety of topics. However you posted provable lies in a thread I have good knowledge of. I demonstrated your lies were lies and you refused to either admit you were wrong, or refute my evidence.
Unfortunately it now means none of your other posts can be trusted in good faith. I don’t think once a liar, always a liar, but you need to admit when you have lied or at the very least show why you think you weren’t lying.

As it stands, you are a proven liar and I think you did so to push your narrative. For you to then suggest someone else isn’t truthful is very disingenuous.
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Or maybe the first part still applies and you are missing something about what I posted.

EDIT: Or largely I just can't be bothered to untangle a more complicated point, from something I originally posted more broadly, in a subject ultimately I don't really care either way.
 
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29-Jun-2022 11:01:46 - UK Adds 13 New Designations Under the Russia Sanctions Regime
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29-Jun-2022 11:07:57 - Latest UK Sanctions Include Joint Stock Company Marshal.Global
29-Jun-2022 11:08:06 - Latest UK Sanctions Include Joint Stock Company Moscow Industrial Bank
29-Jun-2022 11:08:20 - Latest UK Sanctions Include JSC Kolmar Group
29-Jun-2022 11:08:57 - Latest UK Sanctions Include Oligarch Vladimir Potanin
29-Jun-2022 11:09:31 - Latest UK Sanctions Include Anna Tsivileva, Putin’s Cousin — Foreign Office Statement
29-Jun-2022 11:10:02 - UK Government Spokesperson: Today’s Sanctions Show That Nothing and No One Is Off The Table, Including Putin’s Inner Circle
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sanctions-russias-second-richest-man

29-Jun-2022 11:22:15 - Russian Foreign Ministry: There Are No Contacts via Diplomatic Channels With Canada and Germany Over Nord Stream 1 Turbine Issue
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29-Jun-2022 11:29:00 - Senior U.S. Official: U.S. Has Not Communicated With Russia About Changes in U.S. Forces, Equipment in Europe; No Requirement to Do So
29-Jun-2022 11:29:00 - Senior U.S. Official: NATO Strategic Concept Will Mention for First Time the ‘Systemic Challenges’ Posed by China, and Its Burgeoning Relationship With Russia
29-Jun-2022 11:32:35 - Senior U.S. Official: US Supports Modernization of Turkey’s F16 Fleet
 
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NATO as invited Australia, South Korea, New Zealand, and Japan to the up and coming meeting, as China will be on the agenda.
 
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29-Jun-2022 11:44:08 - Zelenskiy Tells NATO: Next Year Situation May Be Worse if Not Only Ukraine but Also Other Countries - Possibly NATO Members - Are Fired at by Russia
29-Jun-2022 11:45:29 - Zelenskiy: Such a Situation Would Be Joint Failure of NATO and Ukraine
29-Jun-2022 11:47:45 - Zelenskiy: Russia Wants to “Enslave” Lithuania
29-Jun-2022 11:50:01 - Zelenskiy: The Question Is ‘Who Is Next’ for Russia After Ukraine?
29-Jun-2022 11:51:37 - Zelenskiy: Ukraine Needs Support With Weapons and Finance
29-Jun-2022 11:53:46 - Zelenskiy: We Need 5 Billion Dollars a Month For Its Defence and Protection
29-Jun-2022 11:55:49 - Zelenskiy: For Purposes of Peace, the Understanding of NATO’s Eastern Flank Needs to Be Reconsidered
29-Jun-2022 11:57:09 - Zelenskiy to NATO: Has Our Contribution to the Security Of Europe Not Been Enough?

29-Jun-2022 12:17:16 - Russia Will Look to Export Its Gold Supplies to Other Countries After U.S. Ban — TASS Cites Official

29-Jun-2022 12:22:35 - French Presidency: Macron and Erdogan Discussed Looking Into Ways to Ensure Security at Odessa Port
29-Jun-2022 12:23:53 - French Presidency: Macron and Erdogan Discussed, at NATO Summit, Their Support for Allowing Transport Way out for Ukraine Grains
 
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Biden has just announced the US's upgrades to its presence in Europe.

- Increasing the fleet of US naval destroyers in the Mediterranean from four to six, will be docked in Spain

- Establishment of a permanent military base in Poland for the US 5th Army Corps

- Deploying an additional brigade to Romania, consisting of 5000 personnel

- Enhanced rotational deployments in the Baltic countries

- Deployment of additional squadrons of F-35 stealth jets to Britain

- Deployment of additional air defence capabilities in Germany and in Italy
 
Grim5 said:
Biden has just announced the US's upgrades to its presence in Europe.

- Increasing the fleet of US naval destroyers in the Mediterranean from four to six, will be docked in Spain

- Establishment of a permanent military base in Poland for the US 5th Army Corps

- Deploying an additional brigade to Romania, consisting of 5000 personnel

- Enhanced rotational deployments in the Baltic countries

- Deployment of additional squadrons of F-35 stealth jets to Britain

- Deployment of additional air defence capabilities in Germany and in Italy
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Curious move, even with the current situation, as not long ago they were intent on reducing their commitment to Europe.

Wonder if deterrent value to China is baked into the equation.
 
bingham67 said:
Makes you wonder with the slow build up of words being dropped by various officials and huge Nato troops 330,000 being made ready that something going to happen sooner or later?
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Though aside from some limited mobilisation in Belarus there doesn't seem to be much military movement that way I reckon they have pessimistic projections when it comes to the Suwalki gap and consider Russia is prepared to see how far they can push it there before NATO actually responds in a material way. Though so far aside from Russia moving a lot of tanks out of storage in the east, a significant amount of them T-62s, to staging areas around Nizhny Novgorod there doesn't seem to be much in the way of real signs of Russia attempting that.
 
bingham67 said:
Makes you wonder with the slow build up of words being dropped by various officials and huge Nato troops 330,000 being made ready that something going to happen sooner or later?
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People seem to misunderstand, we aren't putting 300,000 troops on the border, they'll just be in a higher state of readiness to defend those Eastern European countries if needed.
 
Roar87 said:
People seem to misunderstand, we aren't putting 300,000 troops on the border, they'll just be in a higher state of readiness to defend those Eastern European countries if needed.
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Seems to be a general realisation that is if came to it and Russia did try to push beyond Ukraine, even though that is fairly unlikely, we are woefully unprepared for it - to a foolish extent. Though I don't think the general public will see it that way with a lot questioning the cost (could be "better" spent on health care, etc.) and/or see building up our forces as aggression rather than deterrence.
 
Rroff said:
Seems to be a general realisation that is if came to it and Russia did try to push beyond Ukraine, even though that is fairly unlikely, we are woefully unprepared for it - to a foolish extent. Though I don't think the general public will see it that way with a lot questioning the cost (could be "better" spent on health care, etc.) and/or see building up our forces as aggression rather than deterrence.
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I don't think Russia is capable or prepared for an invasion of NATO anymore than we are prepared to stop it fortunately. The UK and Europe have a lot of bases and could host hundreds of American fighters within a few days, then tens of thousands of troops would be here within weeks, then their carriers would arrive along with heavy equipment, Western European countries would have mobilised all of our reserves and full time forces in that time as well - how more prepared do we need to be? Our main issue would be that we'd lose the Baltics in the initial stages, but we are fully capable of stopping and reversing the initial gains the Russians might make.
 
Roar87 said:
I don't think Russia is capable or prepared for an invasion of NATO anymore than we are prepared to stop it fortunately. The UK and Europe have a lot of bases and could host hundreds of American fighters within a few days, then tens of thousands of troops would be here within weeks, then their carriers would arrive along with heavy equipment, Western European countries would have mobilised all of our reserves and full time forces in that time as well - how more prepared do we need to be? Our main issue would be that we'd lose the Baltics in the initial stages, but we are fully capable of stopping and reversing the initial gains the Russians might make.
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At the very least it would be very difficult for them to mobilise that kind of force without NATO seeing it going on for weeks before hand.
 
Rroff said:
Seems to be a general realisation that is if came to it and Russia did try to push beyond Ukraine, even though that is fairly unlikely, we are woefully unprepared for it - to a foolish extent. Though I don't think the general public will see it that way with a lot questioning the cost (could be "better" spent on health care, etc.) and/or see building up our forces as aggression rather than deterrence.
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If they couldnt achieve air superiority in Ukraine it'd be absolutely laughable trying to go up against NATOs air power. Their Navy would be sitting ducks and their artillery crawl tactics would be a disaster.
 
Minstadave said:
If they couldnt achieve air superiority in Ukraine it'd be absolutely laughable trying to go up against NATOs air power. Their Navy would be sitting ducks and their artillery crawl tactics would be a disaster.
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It is weird what is going on with air power in Ukraine, though maybe not so surprising really. On paper Russia should be able to project overwhelming air power in Ukraine, that is not the reality we are seeing. The smattering of SU-34s fielded don't seem to be doing well, a large amount are old versions of SU-25s, Mi-8 helis which haven't been upgraded since the late 70s, etc. etc.

Even with the reality being Russia has many aircraft not combat ready, lack of experienced pilots, lack of parts, their most hyped aircraft often only being serviceable in single digit numbers the efforts in Ukraine have still been hugely underwhelming while Ukraine has limited functional air force and limited air defences.
 
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