Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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otherwise this thread needs to be renamed to China + Russia co-op WW3 to make combining the two be on topic.
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Big difference between defend and attack, China wants to attack Taiwan not defend it
As far as China is concerned Taiwan is their territory, in reference to attack they are saying if the US enter Taiwan airspace, they will recognise it as an attack on Chinese airspace
 
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As far as China is concerned Taiwan is their territory, in reference to attack they are saying if the US enter Taiwan airspace, they will recognise it as an attack on Chinese airspace


There is not a single Chinese military defence system in Taiwan, for all intended purposes its territory they would be attacking, they do not control it, or occupy it. What words they choose for politics makes no difference to the reality on the ground.

China should focus on its rockets though, they aren't very good at landing

 
I stand by what I said before, Taiwan / China updates have no real place in this topic which is to do with Ukraine.

If people want to create a separate topic for Taiwan / China I'm all for it, otherwise this thread needs to be renamed to China + Russia co-op WW3 to make combining the two be on topic.
I'm not bothered too much either was but FYI China/Taiwan has been a consistent part of this thread since the beginning hence why people mention it occasionally when the topic goes there. I.E there was discussion of the possibility of Russia/China launching invasions at the same time as it would be impossible for the west to support Ukraine and Taiwan. Back when Putin delayed the invasion there was discussion it was at China's request to avoid clashing with the Olympics, and that really hurt his plans as Ukraine made golden use of those extra days to prepare.
 
So Denys the Mence reckons Russia has moved a further 13k troops to reinforce Kherson, I wonder if those are regular Russian units or contingents of levied DPR men?
 
For the same reasons cutting off banking isn’t an act of war.
I would hope that if Britain was in a situation like some of these european countries, we'd start putting pressure on Russia.

I can't help but wonder if this whole situation isn't being dragged out for other reasons. It's either that or there are a lot of passive politicians in europe.
 
Big difference between defend and attack, China wants to attack Taiwan not defend it
Not as far as the Chinese are concerened, as they believe it's their territory they are defending it against the US

No one really knows what their trigger point is but according to them Taiwan is theirs and the US would be invading their territory.

I dont think the US will be taking it to far and try very hard not to reach that trigger point.
 
So Denys the Mence reckons Russia has moved a further 13k troops to reinforce Kherson, I wonder if those are regular Russian units or contingents of levied DPR men?

Maybe moved from Donbass, I saw a tweet a few days ago pointing out that the Ukrainians can play around with the Russians as the Ukraine side have a much shorter route to move troops back and forth between the East and the South consider both routes as sort of arcs but the Ukrainian one has a much shorter radius... They could make a lot of noise about Kherson and then make a push for parts of the East, or indeed make a load of noise about Kherson then cut off the additional troops once they're over the river etc..

Not as far as the Chinese are concerened, as they believe it's their territory they are defending it against the US

No one really knows what their trigger point is but according to them Taiwan is theirs and the US would be invading their territory.

I dont think the US will be taking it to far and try very hard not to reach that trigger point.

Even if they truly believe it is rightfully theirs they're still well aware that a rival China is currently in charge and that a US politician visiting them doesn't constitute an "invasion".
 
Literally correct but not technically correct, we leased HK from Taiwan China and when our lease ran out we couldn't give it back to Taiwan as that would have just resulted in New China invading HK (hence Taiwan didn't even push for this option), we weren't under any legal obligation to give it to China we did it purely to gain political influence/leverage with them (worked out great).

Lmao, I love it when people try to "correct" you and get it completely wrong in the process.

Hong Kong was originally ceded by the Qing dynasty to the British Empire in 1841 in perpetuity. This territory was extended in 1898 with a 99 year lease.

In 1911 there was an uprising in China and the ruling party became the Republic of China who then lost a civil war and fled to Taiwan (so I'm guessing this is who you mean by "Taiwan China").

So no, we did not lease "Hong Kong" from "Taiwan China". We leased an area around Hong Kong from the Qing Emperor who was at the time the ruler of mainland China. We gave back the New Territories (along with Hong Kong for various political reasons) to the current ruling party of mainland China.
 
You know I just took the pictures from The Guardian article, I thought even though it was about the war in Ukraine it was a nice change. I thought it would make a nice change if people can see they look no different from us, they enjoy the same things as us, they don't want to hear about this war, they wish it wasn't going on and also they wish they could forget about it.









https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...muscovites-put-the-war-aside-and-enjoy-summer

Those who are hating on the Russians did you even read the article before your rage kicked in?

The way you are approaching it is grotesque and the only people who benefit from people "chilling" and forgetting about the war, especially with the recent accusations of atrocities, is Russia [the Russian government].

To quote from the article

He was also friends with people such as Margarita Simonyan, the head of the RT television station and one of the top cheerleaders for the war on television. “I showed her photos of the dead children in Mariupol,” he said. “I could see her eyes get glassy. And then I heard what I hear from the television: ‘They did it to themselves. It’s staged. It’s Nazis …’ So we don’t speak any more. I just don’t understand how as a mother she can allow for this. And it’s like that in every family.”
 
So Denys the Mence reckons Russia has moved a further 13k troops to reinforce Kherson, I wonder if those are regular Russian units or contingents of levied DPR men?

A mix I think - but the convoys I've seen going to the front in Kherson have been mostly been equipment only used by regular Russian army forces, others appear to be Wagner. They've mostly been moving heavier forces south towards Crimea though and pushing lighter forces - airborne and Wagner, etc. into the defence.
 
The way you are approaching it is grotesque and the only people who benefit from people "chilling" and forgetting about the war, especially with the recent accusations of atrocities, is Russia [the Russian government].

To quote from the article

Yes they are showing both sides and that is how reality is. There are people on both sides, some who agree with the war and those who are against it.
It would be very disingenuous if they only showed Russians who were against the war.

When I don't post in this thread it's always the same old Twitter posts which resemble very little from reality, I even saw last week posters come in and said it looked like an echo chamber as there isn't really any discussion going on, people are just posting fake news from Twitter then celebrating as if it's a refelection of reality so anyone claiming they are coming here for the latest news is so full of it.

Last week you lot kept posting about momentum is building momentum is building.....when in reality it was this and read that title.

Gravitas: Zelensky poses for Vogue as Ukraine loses towns to Russia



A couple of days later it was this

Russia ramps up attacks in eastern Ukraine, gains ground in Donbas region


and today it is this

Ukraine War: Zelensky orders civilians to evacuate Donetsk region

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So what is the point of all the fake Twitter posts, they won't become reality because you post them here, this isn't some kind of wishing well.

Forums are meant to be a place of discussion yet other than posting fake news and then celebrating those fake news nothing much else happens here, when someone comes in with a different view the same handful of people insult them out.

I know people here are a bit sensitive, so I am generally quite careful with how I word my posts but let's be honest a bit sensitive is understatement of the year if people needed to shield their eyes from The Guardian article.
 
lol Anyway....... moving on from the above.

That soldier who was castrated was apparently shot and killed, I couldn't watch the video but they put his balls in his mouth recorded mocked him etc before they shot him. I know people who watched it and its not hard to find.

Its circulating the usual Russian telegram channels too, unfortunately with a lot of support from people in them.
 
Yes they are showing both sides and that is how reality is. There are people on both sides, some who agree with the war and those who are against it.
It would be very disingenuous if they only showed Russians who were against the war.

When I don't post in this thread it's always the same old Twitter posts which resemble very little from reality, I even saw last week posters come in and said it looked like an echo chamber as there isn't really any discussion going on, people are just posting fake news from Twitter then celebrating as if it's a refelection of reality so anyone claiming they are coming here for the latest news is so full of it.

Last week you lot kept posting about momentum is building momentum is building.....when in reality it was this and read that title.

Gravitas: Zelensky poses for Vogue as Ukraine loses towns to Russia



A couple of days later it was this

Russia ramps up attacks in eastern Ukraine, gains ground in Donbas region


and today it is this

Ukraine War: Zelensky orders civilians to evacuate Donetsk region

928PAwZ.jpeg


So what is the point of all the fake Twitter posts, they won't become reality because you post them here, this isn't some kind of wishing well.

Forums are meant to be a place of discussion yet other than posting fake news and then celebrating those fake news nothing much else happens here, when someone comes in with a different view the same handful of people insult them out.

I know people here are a bit sensitive, so I am generally quite careful with how I word my posts but let's be honest a bit sensitive is understatement of the year if people needed to shield their eyes from The Guardian article.
You know people do get sensitive when it involves deportations, murders, rapes on a scale not seen since the days of Nazi Germany and the USSR and people like you defend them.

No body should be able to discuss the positives of Nazi Germany and the same for Russia right now.

Still waiting for your take on the Russian embassy telling us that the Azov POWs deserve a slow humiliating death?
 
You know people do get sensitive when it involves deportations, murders, rapes on a scale not seen since the days of Nazi Germany and the USSR and people like you defend them.

No body should be able to discuss the positives of Nazi Germany and the same for Russia right now.

Still waiting for your take on the Russian embassy telling us that the Azov POWs deserve a slow humiliating death?

You are going to have to learn to quote the correct posts, I haven't seen anyone celebrating Ukrainians getting raped and murdered so have no idea what you are on about.
 
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