Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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bris said:
Everything I have seen is pro russion on that channel, being pro russian yourself it should be easy to spot for you.
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Amnesia isn't pro-Russian as such - they get a perverse amusement from taking controversial anti-West positions while hiding behind moral high ground positions such as the indiscriminate branding of everyone as anti-Muslim and the constant misrepresenting people's posts and inferring people have a certain opinion/position to enable their arguments, even when someone clearly has a different position.

They wouldn't need to resort to the tactics they do simply to call out the Western/Ukrainian propaganda and/or to present a more objective take on Russian people, etc.

For example everyone knows Twitter is just a tool with a huge range of usefulness depending on how it is used with everything from bots pushing an agenda through to people with an experienced background in a subject presenting analysis and insight - compare that to Amnesia's hysterical broad branding of Twitter and rejecting out of hand anything related to Twitter because it enables their disingenuous angling.
 
Mr Jack said:
Probably a Cobrynista, tbh.
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So hes confirming what just about everyone feared, hes got no spuds and would simply allow Russia (or any significant aggressor) to roll over everyone.

Its a lovely vision he has, just a shame the world is stacked with people who would use that for their own opportunity.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Any yet some people would argue he was PM suitable material.
Bonkers (both them and him)
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It always saddens me TBH as I think he could have made a great difference if not so rigidly bound and blinkered by ideology - but in reality completely unable to compromise if called on for the greater good of the country - he'd see the country in ruins rather than move on his "principles".

(And as a PM sooner or later he'd be called on to make those choices).
 
FFS. How can anyone still treat Corbyn as some paragon of political virtue when even at this point, when we've seen how Putin wants to treat Ukraine, his plan is basically to just let Putin get on with it.

Putin would love a series of diplomatic talks. A few weeks of talks to get all the logistics sorted for destroying the next city down the road, followed by storming out after claiming the Ukrainians were being unreasonable in some way, followed by a few weeks of war with a Ukrainian army that would soon run out of munitions and equipment. All the while giving him more propaganda talking points about how Russia had engaged with the peace talks etc, but evil NATO and its puppet Nazi Ukrainian government just wouldn't see sense.

I did vote for Labour and think that on balance I stand by my choice... I have to believe that his party would have held him back a bit, but on issues like Ukraine and Russia I am glad he didn't win.
 
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I remember when people were trying to gaslight over his links to terrorists and claiming it was just media smears, he really is an odious little man. All nice and polite in front of the cameras the sort of hard left groups he's aligned with support or supported terrorism both within the UK and overseas and just blindly adopt an anti-west stance to the point where they and he end up promoting policies that help Putin and co.

It's like the German greens - so blinded by their own ideological distrust of nuclear power that they end up supporting policies to increase coal use instead!
 
Freddie1980 said:
Russia Bans 29 British journalists and Politicians from entering Russia in addition to the 39 it already announced earlier

List includes Piers Morgan, Kier Stammer, David Cameron Ian Blackford, editors-in-chiefs of major broadsheets as well as many other journalists. For some strange reason they didn't ban Jeremy Corbyn from entering Russia, I can't think why :o.
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I demand that we immediately retaliate against these outrageous sanctions by also banning Piers Morgan!
 
HungryHippos said:
Such elections can't be taken seriously.

Invade a country => Force a bunch of the citizens to flee => The ones that left behind are likely either indifferent, trapped, or pro Russian => Hold election with people still present (probably fudged results or held at gunpoint) => Oh look, what a surprise, they voted to join Russia.

That won't be internationally recognised by anyone other than countries that support Russia, and there aren't many of them.
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You missed a step :P

Invade a country => Force a bunch of the citizens to flee => The ones that left behind are likely either indifferent, trapped, or pro Russian => Bus in new "residents" from across the federation to settle in the area => Hold referendum => Oh look, what a surprise, a landslide in favour of joining Russia.
 
ubersonic said:
You missed a step :p

Invade a country => Force a bunch of the citizens to flee => The ones that left behind are likely either indifferent, trapped, or pro Russian => Bus in new "residents" from across the federation to settle in the area => Hold referendum => Oh look, what a surprise, a landslide in favour of joining Russia.
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Interestingly Russia largely doesn't seem to care to subjugate the Ukrainian population (as in a just want them gone kind of way) - even seem to prefer if they flee westward. Possibly due to man power demands (in terms of policing, etc.) but seems they'd rather repopulate areas with compliant populations from Russia, etc.
 
Rroff said:
Interestingly Russia largely doesn't seem to care to subjugate the Ukrainian population (as in a just want them gone kind of way) - even seem to prefer if they flee westward. Possibly due to man power demands (in terms of policing, etc.) but seems they'd rather repopulate areas with compliant populations from Russia, etc.
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Russia currently has had a below replacement fertility rate for over 30 years, as well as a net negative migration rate, spreading an already thinning population over a larger area is an odd choice.
 
Mr Jack said:
Russia currently has had a below replacement fertility rate for over 30 years, as well as a net negative migration rate, spreading an already thinning population over a larger area is an odd choice.
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Maybe they plan to use Ukraine kind of like some form of the Nazi Lebensborn programme and similar - with ideas of grouping younger populations and encouraging families and so on.
 
HungryHippos said:
Such elections can't be taken seriously.

Invade a country => Force a bunch of the citizens to flee => The ones that left behind are likely either indifferent, trapped, or pro Russian => Hold election with people still present (probably fudged results or held at gunpoint) => Oh look, what a surprise, they voted to join Russia.

That won't be internationally recognised by anyone other than countries that support Russia, and there aren't many of them.
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Well, in the Crimean "referendum" where 90%+ supposedly voted for Putin, that would have to had to include all the Crimean Tatars.
You know the ones, Stalin deports to Siberia and who lost 50% or so of their numbers, were excluded from Khrushchev order to allowing those expelled to return to their homes, and weren't able to return until the 1990s; the Russian Federation has never said anything about all that, while Ukraine has declared it a genocide.

But somehow Putin wants to have people believe that they all voted to join RF in his farce of a referendum?
 
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