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I'm surprised Russia are sticking to the grain agreement, but then again also not, because it's not war but a special operation so I guess under those terms you don't have to blockade the country from exports, still pretty weird though
 
Minusorange said:
I'm surprised Russia are sticking to the grain agreement, but then again also not, because it's not war but a special operation so I guess under those terms you don't have to blockade the country from exports, still pretty weird though
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It’s a quid pro quo.
Russian sanctions lifted in response.

Foodstuffs and fertilisers. Win win…apart from it helping pay for the war - both sides.
 
Custor said:
It’s a quid pro quo.
Russian sanctions lifted in response.
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The sanctions don't seem to be having the desired effect anyway.
Russia is going go sell its gas elsewhere and we are left with tripled fuel bills.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/putin-ruble-west-sanctions-russia-europe

The rouble is soaring and Putin is stronger than ever - our sanctions have backfired​


Western sanctions against Russia are the most ill-conceived and counterproductive policy in recent international history.
World energy prices are rocketing, inflation is soaring, supply chains are chaotic and millions are being starved of gas, grain and fertiliser. Yet Vladimir Putin’s barbarity only escalates
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To criticise western sanctions is close to anathema. Defence analysts are dumb on the subject. Strategy thinktanks are silent. Britain’s putative leaders, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, compete in belligerent rhetoric, promising ever tougher sanctions without a word of purpose. Yet, hint at scepticism on the subject and you will be excoriated as “pro-Putin” and anti-Ukraine. Sanctions are the war cry of the west’s crusade.

The reality of sanctions on Russia is that they invite retaliation. Putin is free to freeze Europe this winter.
Britain’s domestic gas bills face tripling inside a year. The chief beneficiary is none other than Russia, whose energy exports to Asia have soared, driving its balance of payments into unprecedented surplus. The rouble is one of the world’s strongest currencies this year, having strengthened since January by nearly 50%.

Moscow is neither small nor weak. Another observer, the Royal United Services Institute’s Russia expert Richard Connolly, has charted Putin’s response to the sanctions imposed on him since his 2014 seizure of Crimea and Donbas. Their objective was to change Russia’s course in those regions and deter further aggression. Their failure could hardly be more glaring.

Russia is “slowly adjusting to its new circumstances”. Sanctions have promoted trade with China, Iran and India. They have benefited “insiders connected to Putin and the ruling entourage, making huge profits from import substitution”.

Meanwhile, the west and its peoples have been plunged into recession. Leadership has been shaken and insecurity spread in Britain, France, Italy and the US. Gas-starved Germany and Hungary are close to dancing to Putin’s tune. Living costs are escalating everywhere. Yet still no one dares question sanctions. It is sacrilege to admit their failure or conceive retreat.
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Custor said:
It’s a quid pro quo.
Russian sanctions lifted in response.

Foodstuffs and fertilisers. Win win…apart from it helping pay for the war - both sides.
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Which Countries Produce the Most Wheat?

Global wheat production is concentrated in just a handful of countries. Here’s a look at the top wheat-producing countries worldwide.
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If you look - Putin has been attempting use grain export to control Africa. By telling them he will help and allowing export of grain he can influence rare resources and take those resources as payment..
 
StriderX said:
Sell their gas... how?

They can't exactly move pipelines and building new ones is rather awkward with sanctions.
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China, India, Iran, .... the list goes on. All behind the Red Iron Curtain..

I don't think our sanctions have entirely been negative - they have reduces/stopped the reliance on Russian gas and placed dampers on the influence.
 
StriderX said:
Sell their gas... how?

They can't exactly move pipelines (vast majority of which is directed towards Europe) and building new ones is rather awkward with sanctions.
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Not to mention it tends to take years to build the pipelines, or even just new gas terminals for transport by ship (and then you need the ships, there are reasons pipelines are preferred).
 
NickK said:
China, India, Iran, .... the list goes on. All behind the Red Iron Curtain..

I don't think our sanctions have entirely been negative - they have reduces/stopped the reliance on Russian gas and placed dampers on the influence.
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As HH says, those pipelines don't exist, they'll take years to build and likely require parts from countries that are embargoing Russia so either you make do with parts that sort of work but are lower quality (more prone to breaking) or are sort of safe but more prone to accidents.


Long gas pipelines capable of supplying a high volume of gas safely and reliably tend to be rather complicated things due to the fact you need all sorts of pumps, valves and monitoring equipment, even the steel etc used in them tends to be of specific types that may only be made at specific facilities and may be hard to to adapt an existing plant to make (there are loads of grades of steel/alminium etc all for different purposes with different characteristics).
Could they build a pipeline? Yes, could they do it quickly no, could they do it with a reasonable level of safety and reliability? questionable.
 
StriderX said:
Sell their gas... how?

They can't exactly move pipelines (vast majority of which is directed towards Europe) and building new ones is rather awkward with sanctions.
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HungryHippos said:
They don't have the pipelines in place to do it though.
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Werewolf said:
Not to mention it tends to take years to build the pipelines, or even just new gas terminals for transport by ship (and then you need the ships, there are reasons pipelines are preferred).
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They do not have the pipeline to China built yet but the estimated date is sometime in 2024.

https://www.ft.com/content/f0080bf6-5e7d-44be-871f-a5d44dccf5c5
Mongolia expects Russia to begin construction of the “Power of Siberia 2” gas pipeline through its territory to China within two years, as Moscow moves to connect its Europe-supplying gasfields to Asia for the first time.
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Russia has agreed a 30-year contract to supply gas to China through this new pipeline.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...as-deal-using-new-pipeline-source-2022-02-04/

Russia has agreed a 30-year contract to supply gas to China via a new pipeline and will settle the new gas sales in euros, bolstering an energy alliance with Beijing amid Moscow's strained ties with the West over Ukraine and other issues.
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