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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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My only worry is that is there enough people in Ukraine to keep fighting this war? I know Russia has had heavy losses but so has Ukraine. Will there be enough solders to push back?
The problem Putin has, the longer this goes on the more people around him will become dissolusioned with their "special operation" and realise he needs put down for the good of the country.
Is paddy power taking bets on Putin being assinated at all? i'd fancy a cheeky tenner on that within the next 90 days
you also have the issue of sticking green crews into mothballed kit that is likely not up to scratch poorly supplied with fuel supplies and ammo and firing them into what effectivaely is a meat grinder. I really dont see the west reducing their supplies if anything the west will up the ante to put pressure on Russia. If anything i can see the likes of the USA offering all sorts of new toys for the Ukranians to play with and I dont really think many people appreciate the depths of equipment they have at their disposal. just to give you some numbers,
the US currently has over 700 A10 Currently in storage or due to be replaced.There is 8000 abrams tanks sitting 5000 in active service 3000 in storage and you can bet the American ones in storage you could go out jump in and their ready to use straight away. They have 500 Himars launchers and another 1000 M270s
Equipment is cheap. also very easy to move around the world at short notice, a Himars system will happily fit into a C130 - guess how many of those the US has more than enough to shift as much equipment as they want around the world in short order.
equipment that is mothballed and stored and never likely to see the light of day whilst it sounds expensive to sign off multi billion dollar arms deals for the Ukraine its a paper exercise, the equipment is there built bought and costing you money in storage and maintenance. if anything its saving the US military money to fire equipment over to Ukraine as they dont have to then worry about the upkeep costs............
Personally i see the west offering support packages 10-20 times bigger than they already have in a game of brinksmanship. heavy weapons and aircraft i dont imagine we'll see being shipped over unless someone in the US thinks the thought of 2000 tanks being shipped to Ukraine will put the fear of god into Putin. but their nowhere near as effective as a bit of training and some modern drones. maybe some air power next. It wouldnt surprise me if there was quite a few ukranians currently being taught to fly various US aircraft at the moment.
Is paddy power taking bets on Putin being assinated at all? i'd fancy a cheeky tenner on that within the next 90 days
you also have the issue of sticking green crews into mothballed kit that is likely not up to scratch poorly supplied with fuel supplies and ammo and firing them into what effectivaely is a meat grinder. I really dont see the west reducing their supplies if anything the west will up the ante to put pressure on Russia. If anything i can see the likes of the USA offering all sorts of new toys for the Ukranians to play with and I dont really think many people appreciate the depths of equipment they have at their disposal. just to give you some numbers,
the US currently has over 700 A10 Currently in storage or due to be replaced.There is 8000 abrams tanks sitting 5000 in active service 3000 in storage and you can bet the American ones in storage you could go out jump in and their ready to use straight away. They have 500 Himars launchers and another 1000 M270s
Equipment is cheap. also very easy to move around the world at short notice, a Himars system will happily fit into a C130 - guess how many of those the US has more than enough to shift as much equipment as they want around the world in short order.
equipment that is mothballed and stored and never likely to see the light of day whilst it sounds expensive to sign off multi billion dollar arms deals for the Ukraine its a paper exercise, the equipment is there built bought and costing you money in storage and maintenance. if anything its saving the US military money to fire equipment over to Ukraine as they dont have to then worry about the upkeep costs............
Personally i see the west offering support packages 10-20 times bigger than they already have in a game of brinksmanship. heavy weapons and aircraft i dont imagine we'll see being shipped over unless someone in the US thinks the thought of 2000 tanks being shipped to Ukraine will put the fear of god into Putin. but their nowhere near as effective as a bit of training and some modern drones. maybe some air power next. It wouldnt surprise me if there was quite a few ukranians currently being taught to fly various US aircraft at the moment.
the US could quite happily fire over some F15/F16s for various roles, they have around 1500 F15s between active service and storage and circa a 1000 F16s
I'm waiting for the day we hear that he's poisoned himself then shot himself in the back of the head twice, while falling out of a window.
It's like FSB Bingo.
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What I take from this latest speech is -
Step 1 - sham referendum in 4 regions
Step 2 - win referendums In landslide
Step 3 - send 300,000 troops to these regions to bolster them and keep them Russian.
Step 4 - if Ukraine start battering the reservists and taking back these new Russian regions, then quite probable he will drop a few tactical nukes to escalate to de-escalate as it would really be his only chance to end it.
Step 1 - sham referendum in 4 regions
Step 2 - win referendums In landslide
Step 3 - send 300,000 troops to these regions to bolster them and keep them Russian.
Step 4 - if Ukraine start battering the reservists and taking back these new Russian regions, then quite probable he will drop a few tactical nukes to escalate to de-escalate as it would really be his only chance to end it.
I think you're right, except for Step 4. Nuking (even small tactical ones) territory that he covets and is actively invading and seeking to make "part of Russia" would be rather counter-productive to his efforts in the region.
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Special Military Mobilisation.
Calling up 300,000 reservists. So 300,000 less people to pay tax and maintain services and be productive members of society for Russia. The brain drain continues, along with Russia having to fund the salaries for these reservists. If they actually pay them of course.
Calling up 300,000 reservists. So 300,000 less people to pay tax and maintain services and be productive members of society for Russia. The brain drain continues, along with Russia having to fund the salaries for these reservists. If they actually pay them of course.
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Presumably the 150k includes logistics etc, although there's no reason to suppose they'll be any more efficient than the current setup.
He's not going to nuke the Donbass, if he does it he'll target areas that Ukraine holds. Full lunatic mode, he'll nuke Kyiv.
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And to think, People thought Putin was a strong man.
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The "special military operation" is going well then.
Honestly, this war has been one of the most stupid and foolhardy things I've seen a world leader do in my life time.
Putin is a moron. He should have died and left the facade of him being a shrewed and strong leader intact. Now he will be remembered in infamy as an idiot.
Honestly, this war has been one of the most stupid and foolhardy things I've seen a world leader do in my life time.
Putin is a moron. He should have died and left the facade of him being a shrewed and strong leader intact. Now he will be remembered in infamy as an idiot.
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They only have so many railways, bridges, ammo dumps, however many troops they have to defend them.
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