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The west needs to throw everything they have now to give Ukraine the upper hand.
Agree. Put more pressure on the Russian defenses before Russia have time to train those 300k (or 1m) mobilised troops. Force them to be sent to the front line quickly with less training and preparation. Better to fight them when unprepared than allow time to train them properly.

I hate to think of more people on either side dying. But I am on Ukrains side here.
 
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Yea, I dont see how he can use any tactical nukes really, without bigger issues for him after using them.
Its all getting rather bizarre to me now as I have no clue what the objective is for Putin anymore, Ukraine have found their feet, getting more and more supplies and will surly go to get Crimea etc back as well now.

The fallout into the sea will tip turkey over the top as it would mean no food or seafood sales from the surrounding states.
 
If the Russians don't at least train these conscripts for a few months they will be cannon fodder or if they are serving the protesters that were arrested the other day with mobilisation papers they will be surrendering to the Ukrainians on mass.
Conscripts initial role likely provide logistical / support role freeing up the contractors to fight on front line
 
For everyone that thinks nuclear war isn't going to happen.

Why do you think it won't happen?

All out Nuclear War would see Putin die or at least ruins every luxury he currently enjoys as 1 of the richest men in the world. A tactical Nuke in Ukraine, would see Russia suffer some of the fallout and it would make any gains in Ukraine potentially unusable. It would also likely see China, India and Turkey distancing themselves from Russia.
 
The way I'm thinking is to just appease Putin right now, allow him to hold these referendums and then say "peace".

Spend billions developing anti ICBM capabilities and turn eastern NATO into the biggest defensive structure ever seen.

Wait for Putin to have another pop in 5-6 years time. That'll give him time to keep his head down and regroup before he kicks off again.

When the time does come, call his bluff on the nuke front. Intercept all incoming whilst replying with absolutely massive conventional strikes on infrastructure, manufacturing and military targets.

I can't see any other way other than either surrendering all of the ex Soviet bloc now or the stare down nuclear way.

Well, not all Russian nukes are based in Russia for starters.
 
The west needs to throw everything they have now to give Ukraine the upper hand.

I actually think all this talk of Nukes is playing exactly into Putins hands, he wants us to be sat there worried about it.

As Russia like to play the opposite game so much, I think we should send even more stuff to Ukraine to kick Russia out as well.
 
The way I'm thinking is to just appease Putin right now, allow him to hold these referendums and then say "peace".

Spend billions developing anti ICBM capabilities and turn eastern NATO into the biggest defensive structure ever seen.

Wait for Putin to have another pop in 5-6 years time. That'll give him time to keep his head down and regroup before he kicks off again.

When the time does come, call his bluff on the nuke front. Intercept all incoming whilst replying with absolutely massive conventional strikes on infrastructure, manufacturing and military targets.

I can't see any other way other than either surrendering all of the ex Soviet bloc now or the stare down nuclear way.

Do you think our nukes are in the UK?
 
I actually think all this talk of Nukes is playing exactly into Putins hands, he wants us to be sat there worried about it.

As Russia like to play the opposite game so much, I think we should send even more stuff to Ukraine to kick Russia out as well.
And why we not tell Putin this if you goanna use Nukes we are to give him some thinking
 
I actually think all this talk of Nukes is playing exactly into Putins hands, he wants us to be sat there worried about it.

As Russia like to play the opposite game so much, I think we should send even more stuff to Ukraine to kick Russia out as well.

Of course he does this is what he knows and he can control us with it I said from the start in this thread.

Dont back down to a tyrant let him willy wave his nukes we will destroy you in to smitherines aswell.
 
Bit of a tenuous link, but we got back from Antalya this morning where we spent a fair amount of time on the Med. The presence of these coast guard vessels was very noticeable, there were at least 5 of them and one of them at one point was definitely looking for something going by its wake in the distance and the speed it was travelling:

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Definitely keeping an eye on things.
 
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