Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

adam cool dude said:
Easier said than done. We have already cancelled unnecessary subscriptions saving about a grand a year. Problem is the house is occupied 24/7 by at least one adult so trying to turn on the heating later or earlier isn't that easy. I am awake 3am for my job and my missus doesn't get back till 7:30pm. I will suck it up it just annoys me I am losing essentially a top end spec PC every year :p

Only thing is we are a household that loves a good soak in the bath so I could always make everyone move to showers!
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My house is occupied 24/7 4 kids, it can be done.

Reduced washing machine usage
Reduce shower time
Air fryer or slow cooker
Turn stuff off religiously
 
In all seriousness, buying a onesie has reduced the need for the heating to be on in my house.

I may look like a numbnut but at least I'm warm. And they're not numb.
 
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silversurfer said:
Last I read they will adjust fixed tariffs to match the 2.5k cap as announced recently by gov. However that could vary by the company, I'd presume they all fall in line as its also a nice deal for these companies overall, less bad debt etc. Oil is included, otherwise that would be discriminatory as you cant help where you live and everyone is paying the same tax which is the ultimate source for how gov can take these actions.

Add in the 400 discount and it equates to +6% over your current cost pro rata
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Heating oil users are getting £100.

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Government announces further details on energy support for UK households - including a cap on bills in Northern Ireland

Household energy bills in Northern Ireland will be capped from 1 November, the Government has today confirmed. An extra £100 will also be given to those who live off-grid in the UK and use alternative fuels, such as heating oil or LPG to heat their homes. Here's what you need to know.
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adam cool dude said:
Eon-next has just emailed from October I will be paying £349!!!! Minus the £67 from the government that is 282. I was paying 120 this time last year and 250 since the cap in Jan.

How are normal people going to cope with an extra 2 grand a year on energy? My mother is a pensioner but luckily she doesn't live here anymore and her cost of living is okay but if she did she would have been buggered.

This country is proper up the wall.
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That will depend on how much they use to start with, if they are an average or under average user the extra payments will remove most of the additional cost.
Pensioners with no additional income will be getting at least £1,000 in extra payments, and up to £1,600. Take that off the average £2,500 bill and there won't be much difference.

Now if they are living in a massive house, it's time to down size, people have to live within their means. But unfortunately people have accept they can't always expect the same standard of living though out their lives if they haven't made significant provisions for it.
 
kona786 said:
Wow. We can't take you seriously going forward it you think a smartplug is comparable to a PSU.
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Well I'm not an electrician, never have claimed to be a knowledge of everything :p

I will just for confirmation measure power consumption with and without smart plug but its good to know my concerns were wrong.

The thought only came up as I was researching idle power use for the wifi chip, and then the same article started talking about power efficiency.
 
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Blackbadger said:
The smart plugs, will have a few components inside, a 240 to dc converter to run the wireless chip the relay and perhaps a led. This will be where any efficiency loss happens any ac/dc converter is lossy, however it will consume a watt or less. When you activate the smart plugs you can hear the relay physically click as it switches your device on or off just as you would manually, relays have no effective efficiency loss. Wifi uses the most energy however is the most reliable and has the longest range.

Roughly depending on the smart plug type the below can be used to roughly estimate the running costs. All small amounts add up over time. with 8760hrs in a year a wifi smart plug may consume 8-16kw, if you have lots that can add up. However if used wisely to turn devices on/off at a schedule the likely outcome is that you may save far more electricity than having the device that is plugged in running (even if on standby)

Wi-Fi1.0-2.0 Watts
ZigBee0.3-0.6 Watts
Z-Wave0.3-0.5 Watts
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Right, so they were probably talking about the efficiency for that convertor on the wifi chip and I misinterpreted it to mean the power its passing through to the device, that makes sense.
 
In the summer, we run our a/c for most of each day, every day, and our electricity bill for August showed that we used 1389 kWH, which cost $0.1348 (£0.1186) per kWh. I'm very glad to live in a state that has nuclear power generation as our electricity pricing has barely changed since we moved to the states a few years ago, although an extra surcharge was tacked on last month that amounts to a 6% price increase.

We have personally opted for a plan that has the same pricing all day, so we can run whatever appliances we want at any time of the day without the price of using that appliance increasing, but our (captive) electricity provider has many other price plans available, such as EV plans, time-of-use plans, etc.

We are on a system similar to whole bill direct debit, except that we pay by credit card, which costs no more or less than paying direct from a bank account.
 
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ci_newman said:
But this is the future that our illustrious Brexit-willing nationalites wanted.

We were warned that costs would increase as a result, and yet that was apparently the "price we are willing to pay for autonomy".

And it's only going to get worse.
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Are you suggesting that the cost of living for all other countries has not gone up?

You keep blaming brexit for the cost if living, but forget that it a world cost if living crisis. I guess it is easy to use brexit as the source rather than the true source.

Brexit is not the problem.
 
Brexit has not caused inflation on its own but it has played a part in making it higher than it would otherwise be.... You disagree?
 
So I’ve had my email from EDF on how the £60 is being handled and it’s being credited back to my bank account as I pay by DD, I thought it was being applied to my bill?
 
It’s all a bit convoluted still.

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Mrwong said:
Are you suggesting that the cost of living for all other countries has not gone up?

You keep blaming brexit for the cost if living, but forget that it a world cost if living crisis. I guess it is easy to use brexit as the source rather than the true source.

Brexit is not the problem.
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Brexit is a major contributory factor.
 
antijoke said:
So I’ve had my email from EDF on how the £60 is being handled and it’s being credited back to my bank account as I pay by DD, I thought it was being applied to my bill?
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You pay your normal DD amount, they then credit the £66/£67 back to your bank account.
 
Mrwong said:
Are you suggesting that the cost of living for all other countries has not gone up?

You keep blaming brexit for the cost if living, but forget that it a world cost if living crisis. I guess it is easy to use brexit as the source rather than the true source.

Brexit is not the problem.
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Why are you quoting a post almost 7 months old that was made before the Ukraine invasion screwed the rest of Europe?
 
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