Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Gypo said:

In the Omsk region, the mobilized beat the police and the National Guard. In the village of Bolshereche, in response to rudeness and rudeness when they were forcibly sent to the front, the mobilized seized several policemen and announced that they would go to die in the trenches with them.
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Bit different than this one.

 
New York Times is reporting that US intelligence has found out that Russia's generals have recommended to Putin to order a retreat from Kherson Oblast; Putin has refused and told them to defend to the last man and any who surrender will go straight to prison when they get back to Russia

Where have I heard this story before

www.nytimes.com

As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy (Published 2022)

The Russian president has rejected requests from commanders in the field that they be allowed to retreat from Kherson, a vital city in Ukraine’s south.
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Grim5 said:
New York Times is reporting that US intelligence has found out that Russia's generals have recommended to Putin to order a retreat from Kherson Oblast; Putin has refused and told them to defend to the last man and any who surrender will go straight to prison when they get back to Russia

Where have I heard this story before

www.nytimes.com

As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy (Published 2022)

The Russian president has rejected requests from commanders in the field that they be allowed to retreat from Kherson, a vital city in Ukraine’s south.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Losing Kherson would be to embarassing for Putin, every man it will be.

It only a matter of time I believe they will all start retreating anyway.
 
Grim5 said:
Rumours that Russia may implement Martial law on its borders to cut down on draft dodging

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So thing is we held some part back saying the people where heavily brain washed and couldn't know what was really going on. But this shows they clearly do know what is really going on and where very happy to go along with Russia is great and wonderful and Putin is always right. So yea f'em, they knew they all knew what was going on until it landed on them to do the dirty work.
 
cu3ed said:
So thing is we held some part back saying the people where heavily brain washed and couldn't know what was really going on. But this shows they clearly do know what is really going on and where very happy to go along with Russia is great and wonderful and Putin is always right. So yea f'em, they knew they all knew what was going on until it landed on them to do the dirty work.
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Basically this. Almost all Russians are complicit in this.
 
cu3ed said:
So thing is we held some part back saying the people where heavily brain washed and couldn't know what was really going on. But this shows they clearly do know what is really going on and where very happy to go along with Russia is great and wonderful and Putin is always right. So yea f'em, they knew they all knew what was going on until it landed on them to do the dirty work.
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Don't think there is one take on that - increasingly the middle class Russians know and don't care - the opinion being everything domestic or foreign is propaganda. Then you have those in poorer and more remote parts who don't have access to information.

I've been watching a couple of Russian YouTubers who were walking a very fine line - having a good idea what was going on but with real consequences for speaking out - interestingly both bugged out to Georgia around the same time around the 16th ahead of the mobilization - as if they knew something was coming.
 
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Rroff said:
Don't think there is one take on that - increasingly the middle class Russians know and don't care - the opinion being everything domestic or foreign is propaganda. Then you have those in poorer and more remote parts who don't have access to information.

I've been watching a couple of Russian YouTubers who were walking a very fine line - having a good idea what was going on but with real consequences for speaking out - interestingly both bugged out to Georgia around the same time around the 16th ahead of the mobilization - as if they knew something was coming.
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I guess my belief was thinking the propaganda there had such a hold over people.
 
Seems like Russia's airforce has been decimated by the Ukrainians? How many airworthy jets do they half left at this point? An SU-30M (it seems) was shot down today. I think 4 jets yesterday.
 
Scougar said:
Seems like Russia's airforce has been decimated by the Ukrainians? How many airworthy jets do they half left at this point? An SU-30M (it seems) was shot down today. I think 4 jets yesterday.
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Before the war they reportedly had around 1400 aircraft (fighters and ground attack jets) how many of them are actually serviceable and airworthy is anyone's guess.
 
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