Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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It's just stupid and lazy to go jumping to conclusions on who did it at this time, there isn't any credible evidence being presented just yet/possibly ever.
Both sides have just as much motivation, reasoning, and ability to carry this out.

It does however clear up one uncomfortable link with Russia, still other means for the gas to flow, but that direct connection is no longer a sticking point. Any reduced reliance upon Russia is a good thing.
 
Hotwired said:
The pipe hasn't been erased off the map. Would be a shocking state of affairs if a small section of damaged pipe couldn't be fixed.
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Other than a full temporary shutdown, I doubt in the current climate there will be any great strides made to repair or replace the damaged sections, it's entirely possible it may be so damaged that it may be more economic to replace rather than repair. If there is even any desire to do so.
I'd be surprised if there was a rapid depressurisation that there wasn't more extensive damage to the line in general.
I guess we'll see in coming weeks/months.
 
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It just goes to show the fragility of excessive population levels needing energy sources from other countries via an undersea pipeline. And how easily such a supply can be politicised or destroyed.

In the latter case modern technology can't even pinpoint the perpetrators with the region under the closest scrutiny modern technology allows.
 
Angilion said:
No, we don't. Because it isn't true.

Anyway, Putin's regime is far closer to the Nazis than anything in Ukraine.

Even if what you claimed was true, it would not be a justification for completely ending Ukraine and absorbing it into Russia as a colony (probably with another Russian genocide against Ukrainians, like the last time).

Also, the main reason why there are Russians living in east Ukraine is because of that genocide. Killing Ukrainians and replacing them with Russians was part of the plan back then. I wouldn't be surprised if it's part of the plan today.
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Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
 
StriderX said:
Yes it neatly forces people out of any chance of leveraging the situation.

Here's a hot take... Germany did it to shut up all the critics.
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It is strange - I can't really see who benefits. For Russia it has removed the 'Europe crawling back over the winter leverage'. It does nothing for the west and NATO.

Maybe Ukraine gain an advantage - but they would be crazy to do anything that upsets its allies and they dont have the capability.

I really don't understand it.
 
kylew_is_back said:
Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
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Ahahahaha.

Please explain the Z symbolism,; calls for genocide; shutting off information to the public and supplying only government endorsed propaganda.

Frankly, you are delusional.

Here's the truth. Ukrainian is not a saintly country. It's getting better, but still has ingrained with corruption like Russia. Their politics are also not perfect, but still better than Russia.

Russia wants the land. They don't give a **** what the UN or anyone else says. They are the aggressor and always have been.
 
I_M_Weasel said:
It is strange - I can't really see who benefits. For Russia it has removed the 'Europe crawling back over the winter leverage'. It does nothing for the west and NATO.

Maybe Ukraine gain an advantage - but they would be crazy to do anything that upsets its allies and they dont have the capability.

I really don't understand it.
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If you were to be cynical about it the US has the most to gain. But would be a strange one to carry out so brazenly with their fleet assets patrolling the area recently - which is much more likely in response to sightings of unknown submarine and drones than it is due to an intent to do damage to the pipelines.
 
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