Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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HungryHippos said:
The number of videos of isolated tanks getting blown to bits suggests they really have no idea how to use them.
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Russia seems to like their recon by combat - using a small element of kind of sacrificial 1-2 tanks, 3-6 armoured fighting vehicles probing, but lately their artillery advantage has diminished considerably and Ukraine quickly started to respond with a small special forces type setup equipped portable with anti-tank weapons and drones rather than revealing their larger force.
 
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A lot of things are working against Russia's tank usage after the initial February/March engagement where there was at least an attempt at combined arms and while there is still a threat of a large offensive action that could help Russia regain some momentum I suspect commanders are more likely to waste their tanks by trickling them in.
 
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StriderX said:
A lot of things are working against Russia's tank usage after the initial February/March engagement where there was at least an attempt at combined arms and while there is still a threat of a large offensive action that could help Russia regain some momentum I suspect commanders are more likely to waste their tanks by trickling them in.
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Russia is kind of stuck in a dilemma IMO - they need to keep sending in forces to head off the current momentum turning against them, but that is just expending forces piecemeal throwing good money after bad, but at the same time need to find the time to build up a combined force with sufficient training which they can use in weight.

In the end they might start sending new draft/conscripts with older equipment to take up other duties freeing up what is left of the main armed forces to send into Ukraine en mass - but I can see Putin being very paranoid about that situation and they'd be done really with only their strategic forces left as a deterrent.
 
StriderX said:
A lot of things are working against Russia's tank usage after the initial February/March engagement where there was at least an attempt at combined arms and while there is still a threat of a large offensive action that could help Russia regain some momentum I suspect commanders are more likely to waste their tanks by trickling them in.
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Strange that they choose to start this when the ground conditions were at there worst and removed the option of going anywhere other than roads - In many early engagements it seemed like only the lead tank had any idea where to go and the others were just following. I don't think manouvere warfare can work when you can't manouvere and lack the officers and NCO's who can adapt to the situation; they are too slow and rigid.
 
nsmalley said:
If this is representee Speechless..
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Well media and propaganda are powerful tools, used by both sides.

I mean we are being told now there's no such thing as men and women. Anyone can be anything they want. 10 more years of that and the next generation will be set. 50 years time potentially no one to remember what a woman is :p

It's Madness but completely understandable.
 
Efour said:
Well media and propaganda are powerful tools, used by both sides.

I mean we are being told now there's no such thing as men and women. Anyone can be anything they want. 10 more years of that and the next generation will be set. 50 years time potentially no one to remember what a woman is :p

It's Madness but completely understandable.
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The state isn't doing that though is it? It's just a loud minority clashing with another loud minority which the media loves.
 
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Kherson really is going to be key IMO
IF Russia puts up a decent defense there you get the feeling this is far from over
IF however they dont and fall back again quite quickly I cannot see any of the taken lands remaining bar some really nasty stuff from Putrid, ie nukes.

The problem for russia remains to my mind HIMARS and similar. I doubt Ukraine will pummel Kherson, but the supply lines in/out will be IMO a shooting range.
Question will then be how long will Russia allow bleeding to take place there

Other major towns/cities will be similar but I think geography with Kherson makes it far harder for Russia to counter and far more concentrated supply lines in/out
 
I won't discount Russia putting up a heroic defence of Kherson proper, right now it's still outskirts, but surrounded on all sides and with a river to their back and no easy way to cross it, this will become a matter of supply.

Russia will be unable to get troops over, and things like ammo and food will be hard to get across unless they've been stockpiling well.

Any heavy kit taken out can't be replaced.

For Russia, they may be forced to surrender eventually, a determined defense well supplied could probably hold Kherson for months, but you get the impression most of the Russian troops aren't all that determined, this isn't defending their homes or country (most of them probably don't buy the annexations either), this is some place they probably don't care that much about.

This is all unfolding very quickly though, and the lines near Lyman/Severodonestk are still being pushed as well, so Ukraine are losing on two areas of the front, meanwhile their suicidal attacks on Bakhmut aren't working so they are more or less stuck elsewhere.
 
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I think Kherson will be similar to Mariupol when russians hit it.. it'll take a while and I feel like Russia has been preparing just for that.
 
Will they really put up much of a fight though? Ukraine fighters did, because they were defending their own lands, but most of the soldiers in the Russian army more than likely don't want to actually be there. They have no personal ties to the land they are currently defending, it's just orders.
 
Uther said:
A tactical nuke must look really appealing just now to Putin.
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Not sure if I've just had too much internet recently but I'm almost at the stage where I'd be surprised if he doesn't use some kind of nuclear device.

Just has nowhere to go from here except backwards. Under pressure for results, unlikely to win or even retake ground by conventional means.

What I don't believe would happen is everyone gets nuke happy. A complete annexation of Russia from the rest of the world. A ban on any country trading with them - even China.

The global economy would nose dive and be pretty much ruined for a year or two.
 
If a tactical was used, where? Are russian troops falling back planned/expected in order to create some space for such an attack.
 
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