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dowie said:
There used to be lots of working small bunkers for royal observer corps people, some come up for sale every so often, they're just basic fallout shelters.

Similarly, I think plenty of the civil defence shelters were essentially just fallout shelters for local council leaders etc.

It's not like most of this stuff is designed to survive a direct strike, if you live in a tall building in an area that doesn't get hit then the basement would be pretty good as would any core parts away form windows - gamma rays travel in straight lines so if you're mid way up a building in the core that means multiple layers of concrete to get through.

If you're in a house with a basement then a strong table down there with lots of heavy stuff on top would be useful, if you don't have a basement then lots of heavy stuff to the sides of the strong table would be needed too, like you could get a bunch of plastic containers filled up with water, bricks, sacks of earth, all sorts of stuff, seal up most air gaps in your house or at least the room you're going to stay in.

The basic principle, so long as you're not in an area directly affected by the blast, is to not breathe in contaminated radioactive dust and to get a whole load of solid mass between you and the gamma rays, at least for a couple of days and ideally for a couple of weeks... after a day or two you could probably move around inside your house to at least make a quick trip to use the loo etc. hopefully you still have some water supply but meh...

You probably have at least 30mins or so to put together an ad hoc shelter after a bomb drops. Obvs if there is a conventional war between Russia and NATO then it might be worth spending a couple of days getting some building supplies and trying to build a small shelter in the garden.
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That YouTuber, Colin Furze could just become the most popular man on his road soon :)
 
StriderX said:
Assuming Russia ever actually gets these mobilised meat sacks to a front I wonder how the exhausted troops who've had immense supply problems, had their contracts extended indefinitely and constantly getting ordered to go on suicide missions with Kadyrovites (who are increasingly irritated with the military) acting as commissars more interested in taking tik toks/brutalising their own troops than doing any actual work will feel about these morons coming to 'help'?

One of the Wagner bloggers was arrested trying to get to the defence minister so things are clearly unwell in Moscow and that will undoubtedly end up affecting the frontline when tensions between the groups become irreparable.
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Good, the sooner it all falls apart for them the sooner it will be over.
 
Grim5 said:
Like the anti air systems in the US that can be seen on rooftops of buildings protected against a plane that hit the pentagon, that kind of defence?

The problem I see with air defences is not that you can't shoot an enemy out of the air, it's that you don't know who is an enemy and who is not, so sneaking in a nuclear first strike on any major city with lots of air travel should be easy enough
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No i mean the A135 complex they have
 
Apparently Russians are using Chlorine gas now. EDIT: Might be debunked. Someone mentioned UKR subreddit disagrees with the video in question)
 
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dowie said:
Nukes don't work like Chernobyl though, the area around Chernobyl will be radioactive for ages and a no-go zone. The biggest issue with nuclear fallout from a bomb is the immediate hours and days afterward, staying sheltered to avoid radiation sickness.

Just 7 hours after a blast and the radiation falls to 10% of what it was, 48 hours after a blast and it's at 1%. So even being able to shelter for a couple of days or so in a basement of a big building or in an underground station etc.. makes a difference.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been completely rebuilt, they're not no-go zones.
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Thats good news / info I wasnt aware of. Thanks
 
Chris Wilson said:
That YouTuber, Colin Furze could just become the most popular man on his road soon :)
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Yup, his shelter is awesome... though ideally, you don't really want the entire road or neighborhood to know about it. Not out of inherent selfishness but rather just practicalities, if you had a shelter and supplies and had say immediate family members come and stay then how many more can you practically fit in there? You want to have at least 2 weeks' worth of water for each person, + food, the ability to go to the toilet etc.. If 50+ people on his road all want to be let in then yikes... also if they demand to be let in a little bit after the blast, potentially covered in fallout etc.. then very not good.

Ideally, you'd want other people nearby who also have shelters and supplies - mutual support is good, lots of freeloaders aren't good!
 
Scougar said:
Apparently Russians are using Chlorine gas now.
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That's worrying if confirmed, also had a possible use of it back in the Astoval siege, this time it seems to have caused some injuries and so perhaps can be confirmed. NATO might need to warn Russia about this too.
 
Grim5 said:
This one shows Russians 3 awful things about the West: It's full of lesbians and gays, it's full of vegetarians and it's full of black people (I wish I was joking)
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LOL so bad yet all their wealthy Oligarchs, politicians, celebrities and their families seem to love to travel here and buy property etc.
 
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