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No, I just think you're talking **** :)

It's all whataboutery and excuses.

You don't like the idea that you should be facing up to the fact that for whatever reason, you back the wrong horse.
So you agree with the policies? Make your mind up…
 
Ban ownership of second homes.
To be fair out my way (and I'm sure in other parts of the country like Devon/Cornwall) that might not actually be a bad thing.... especially considering most areas seem to have a shortage of housing too.

Due to train links to London we're getting a lot of 'Londoners' buying second homes in Norfolk which not only push the prices up above the range of the local average wage, they also take away housing stock which just isn't be replaced.... then the second homes are left empty for over 50% of the year....

Some areas are in a situation where businesses rely on the second home owners for their income (no other choice) but can't get staff because the (minimum wage) staff can't live near enough to work there and second home owners have pushed prices up (not to mention bought the local houses....)
 
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So you agree with the policies? Make your mind up…
Wut?

Oh I get it, this the Boris/Trump trick of being so deliberately obtuse that people give up with reason and you get to think you've "won".

Like I said earlier, you really need to pick your side and start practicing your lines. Either you weren't paying attention/bit of a simpleton and you went along with it, or you might lose a lot of goodwill/friends over the next year or so. This is not going to be pretty.

Better still, have a little think about people who are perhaps less fortunate than yourself and imagine how the government and the policies you blindly support have and are profoundly effecting them.
 
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Wut?

Oh I get it, this the Boris/Trump trick of being so deliberately obtuse that people give up with reason and you get to think you've "won".
You seem to be using the Liz Truss tactic of not answering the question by giving a load on unrelated waffle instead… and you gong to tell me about what you have done to cut energy bills next.. or maybe just walk off.. :D
 
No, I just think you're talking **** :)

It's all whataboutery and excuses.

You don't like the idea that you should be facing up to the fact that for whatever reason, you back the wrong horse.
The term "the wrong horse" would suggest that there is a right horse to back, sadly this isnt the case, all of the horses in the race are 3 legged and blind, all you can do is pick the one thats least likely to crash into the fence and kill its rider and is capable of making it at least 2 fences before the crowds watching realise its another 3 legged blind horse :)
 
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The term "the wrong horse" would suggest that there is a right horse to back, sadly this isnt the case, all of the horses in the race are 3 legged and blind, all you can do is pick the one thats least likely to crash into the fence and kill its rider and is capable of making it at least 2 fences before the crowds watching realise its another 3 legged blind horse :)

That may or may not be the case, but either way, the wrong horse is relative to the others.
 
You seem to be using the Liz Truss tactic of not answering the question by giving a load on unrelated waffle instead… and you gong to tell me about what you have done to cut energy bills next.. or maybe just walk off.. :D

Well, I can say, that one way I wouldn't have done it is by giving £150bln+ to the oil and gas companies gratis and lobbing that on the country's debt. Then announcing £65bln in tax cuts and sat and watched for 2 weeks whilst the world burned.

Pretty much any other course of action would have been preferable. Including doing nothing. At least then people wouldn't be facing massive increases in their mortgage interest payments which pretty much offset any benefit most people will see from the £150bln she's gifted to her mates at Shell et al.
 
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It’s just a shame that they are all crap and there isnt someone good we can back. Its like trying to make a choice between a group of serial killers to invite to dinner, none of them are ones you would really like to invite
To use that analogy — right now we have the choice between a convicted serial killer, and someone without a criminal record but who (some people think) ‘looks a bit dodgy’.

Those people seem to prefer the certainty of being murdered and buried under the patio, rather than risking inviting over the ‘dodgy looking one’, just in case they turn out to be a serial killer.

It’s a bit odd.
 
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This is a good article.


They will point to the obvious impact of Britain’s decision to leave the European Union, and the role that played in upending a country once renowned for its stability. They might begin with the basics. Exit, they will write, shrank the UK economy thanks to a 5.2% fall in GDP, a 13.7% fall in investment and a similar drop in the trade in goods. That self-inflicted contraction helps explain why Britain felt international shocks – surging inflation, for example – harder than most. If your economy is smaller, you either have to tax people more to pay for the services they expect, or you cut those services, or you borrow. There are no other ways out.

Unless you resort to magical thinking. Which brings us to the second causal connection between the craziness of now and the turning point of 2016. Brexit broke the link between governance and reason, between policy and evidence. Until Brexit, politicians only rarely got away with defying the empirical facts or elementary logic. But in 2016 they pretended that a country could weaken its trading ties to its nearest neighbours and get richer, which is like saying you can step in a bath of ice and get warmer.
 
To use that analogy — right now we have the choice between a convicted serial killer, and someone without a criminal record but who (some people think) ‘looks a bit dodgy’.

Those people seem to prefer the certainty of being murdered and buried under the patio, rather than risking inviting over the ‘dodgy looking one’, just in case they turn out to be a serial killer.

It’s a bit odd.
In an ideal world, the choice would be to invite over someone who is neither a convicted serial killer nor looks a bit dodgy. However, in order to be able to do that we might have to alter the parameters of the dinner party, so that inviting someone along those lines becomes a possibility
 
In an ideal world, the choice would be to invite over someone who is neither a convicted serial killer nor looks a bit dodgy. However, in order to be able to do that we might have to alter the parameters of the dinner party, so that inviting someone along those lines becomes a possibility

Whilst that is true, it's still no good calling the boring lawyer who's turned up a peado loving Jimmy Savile apologist, whilst laughing and joking with the fella who's literally saying stuff like "let the bodies pile high" or the weirdo in the corner who thinks selling cheese to the genetically lactose intolerant Japanese is a good business plan.

These people are not all the same.
 
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Everyone has amazing content - thank you for sharing - and all opinions are valid (they are not) but has anyone taken a second to reflect on this amazing film and any similarities to either ongoing events and/or the last several posts?

If not why not?

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