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SideWinder said:
Anyone else worried if Ukraine push for Crimea? Russia have 'claimed' it for ages so think they could be extremely annoyed...more so than their recent 'claims'.
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They’ve been extremely annoyed plenty of times, but all we’ve seen so far are some hollow words and a few missiles fired at civilian targets. Hopefully we’re continuing to supply anti air to the major population centres.
 
SideWinder said:
Fair enough! Just me overthinking it all. :o
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In all reality, I dont think they have much of a response. I think the big change would be if Ukraine would push outwith their own borders, into genuine Russian territory. If Ukraine were to push into Crimea proper I feel that will be the point where the conflict comes to an end, likely in the form of Russia withdrawing and the end of Putin's regime. This is probably wishful thinking but thats where I see this going.
 
SideWinder said:
Anyone else worried if Ukraine push for Crimea? Russia have 'claimed' it for ages so think they could be extremely annoyed...more so than their recent 'claims'.
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I believe that so far, Russia hasn’t declared ‘no backsies’, so Crimea remains fair game under international law.
 
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SideWinder said:
Anyone else worried if Ukraine push for Crimea? Russia have 'claimed' it for ages so think they could be extremely annoyed...more so than their recent 'claims'.
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His empty nuclear threats have been shown to be just that. He tried a few weeks ago and it was made clear to him the price would be more than he would be prepared to pay. He isn't starting WW3.
 
Scougar said:
Let's be frank here. We have to be extremely thankful that they are so damn corrupt they screwed themselves. Had they actually put the money where it was meant to have gone, it may have gone quite differently.
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Absolutey, Russia has ****** up.

But it likely was never possible anyway, if you look at how many vehicles, weapons, ammo and soldiers they claim to have you'll see that their annual military budget is far too small to sustain it - and rather than give bad news to the higher ups, endless lies made the higher ups believe the Russian army is a Masterclass in efficiency and can sustain 1 million combat ready soldiers, 10000 tanks, 4000 planes and a big fleet of ships on an annual budget that is 5 times less than the U.S just spends on its navy
 
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SideWinder said:
Anyone else worried if Ukraine push for Crimea? Russia have 'claimed' it for ages so think they could be extremely annoyed...more so than their recent 'claims'.
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If UKR push the land bridge to Crimea area, they can destroy the Russia/Crimea bridge again as well. I think Russia would just give up at that point. The only real hope Russia have here is to push a ton of men to the East, to distract UKR forces. Russia 100% is not coming back from the South without some massive regroup of men and arms.
 
Just saw something on reddit that UKR might have landed forces on the southern side of the river, along the black sea, and liberated a village. That huge defensive walls might become completely pointless if UKR can get forces in from that side.
 
Scougar said:
Just saw something on reddit that UKR might have landed forces on the southern side of the river, along the black sea, and liberated a village. That huge defensive walls might become completely pointless if UKR can get forces in from that side.
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Need to keep em supplied and bringing heavy equipment over under Russian Artillery isnt going to be fun
 
SideWinder said:
Anyone else worried if Ukraine push for Crimea? Russia have 'claimed' it for ages so think they could be extremely annoyed...more so than their recent 'claims'.
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I would be more worried if Ukraine didn't push for Crimea. I'm sure Russia would be annoyed if they lost Crimea probably to the point where Putin himself finds himself falling out a window but much like their response to NATO delivering advanced weapons to Ukraine they won't respond any harder then what they have already shown they are capable of.
 
Scougar said:
Just saw something on reddit that UKR might have landed forces on the southern side of the river, along the black sea, and liberated a village. That huge defensive walls might become completely pointless if UKR can get forces in from that side.
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Is that in the Peninsular area just south of Mykolaiv? I would wait until I see an update on deepstate before getting too excited, it could be the Russian's have abandoned it and it's now uncontested.
 
Scougar said:
Yeah.. ballsy move for sure. Kinda silly to publicise it unless it's part of an diversion plan.
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I'd suspect it is. Start taking villages way out of the way with small mobile teams so they have to send troops and equipment in. Those 30k troops that were in Kherson will do some damage in the Donbass so try to siphon as many away as possible to deal with those incursions. If they leave them it could snow ball. Make Russia worry that whatever % they left dug-in in Kherson may not have been enough.
 
Scougar said:
Just saw something on reddit that UKR might have landed forces on the southern side of the river, along the black sea, and liberated a village. That huge defensive walls might become completely pointless if UKR can get forces in from that side.
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nsmalley said:
Need to keep em supplied and bringing heavy equipment over under Russian Artillery isnt going to be fun
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Yeah I don't think Ukraine have the capability of a significant landing across the sea. If they have landed there it's likely to just be a small group of infantry attacking russian positions which are either lightly defended or not defended at all because they know the Ukranians can't push hard. Once the element of surprise is gone, the Russian will bombard that narrow stretch of land and it may become impossible to push forward

 
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dLockers said:
China looking on gleefully as it 'weakens the west' by pumping so much resource into Ukraine. Luckily they're closer to China than us so could be beneficial long term!
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Trust me, the "west" has only used a tiny fraction of there resources into this. Although they like to moan about how much they're spending on this, in reality, it has barely made a dent.
 
robgmun said:
Trust me, the "west" has only used a tiny fraction of there resources into this. Although they like to moan about how much they're spending on this, in reality, it has barely made a dent.
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That's the irony. Western politicians are bitchy about giving money for Ukraine to do the job that Western armies were supposed to do in the first place, especially when you see how small the value is.

the total military assistance provided so far from NATO countries is around $37 billion, then consider that the total military budget for NATO last year was $1.2 trillion and we find that NATO has provided just 3.0% of its single year budget to Ukraine.

And if China thinks that NATO giving away 3% of its budget to Ukraine weakens NATO they have got another thing coming, because just about every NATO country due to Russia, now has the public's backing to allocate more of their GDP to the military going forward so NATO's budget next year won't be $1.2 trillion, it will be higher
 
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Grim5 said:
Yeah I don't think Ukraine have the capability of a significant landing across the sea. If they have landed there it's likely to just be a small group of infantry attacking russian positions which are either lightly defended or not defended at all because they know the Ukranians can't push hard. Once the element of surprise is gone, the Russian will bombard that narrow stretch of land and it may become impossible to push forward

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As expected, small groups of infantry crossing over - very brave men

 
Well they have to do something to keep Russian forces/equipment more occupied in Kherson now that the frontline has shortened substantially so got to threaten the rear somehow.
 
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