Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Chris Wilson said:
Err, it's a reflection on Pinocchio and how his nose grows each time he tells a lie.... Each line he writes on the blackboard is deemed a lie. Calm yourself.

Pinocchio is a hero of the 1883 children's novel The Adventures of Pinocchio by Italian author Carlo Collodi. Pinocchio, an animated puppet, is punished for each lie that he tells by undergoing further growth of his nose. There are no restrictions on the length of Pinocchio's nose.
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Uh no it is not - Pinocchio's nose is almost always depicted broom handle like and coming out at a 90 degree angle from his face. The nose depicted in that image is quite intentional and has certain other connotations.
 
Rroff said:
The nose depicted in that image is quite intentional and has certain other connotations.
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More like Thomas Wedders nose

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Custor said:
Careful use of English to mix implied intent with actual recorded actions.
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Some people genuinely Putin himself is individual selecting the target for each missile and is deliberately programming a maternity ward.

The truth however doesn't feed their hate so they won't believe it - an Intel source has info that "something s happening at xyz co-ordinates" and passes that data to the military saying "hit these co-ordinates", a random low ranking Russian officer types them into a computer, the computer gets connect to a missile and the co-ordinates are sent across, eventually another low ranking Russian officer (pilot/ground) launches the missile and its upto the quality control of a random bunch of Russian factory workers to see if after launch the missile goes were it was aimed in the first place or hits a random location.
 
ianh said:
Some people genuinely Putin himself is individual selecting the target for each missile and is deliberately programming a maternity ward.

The truth however doesn't feed their hate so they won't believe it - an Intel source has info that "something s happening at xyz co-ordinates" and passes that data to the military saying "hit these co-ordinates", a random low ranking Russian officer types them into a computer, the computer gets connect to a missile and the co-ordinates are sent across, eventually another low ranking Russian officer (pilot/ground) launches the missile and its upto the quality control of a random bunch of Russian factory workers to see if after launch the missile goes were it was aimed in the first place or hits a random location.
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In a top heavy command structure like Russia it is entirely valid to think Putin is signing these strikes off, perhaps not every individual act but a general order to subordinates to terrorise Ukraine would be more than enough responsibility.

Also it's impossible for him not to have noticed the attack's on Ukraine's energy infrastructure which is an illegitimate target when it mostly affects civilians and puts millions at risk to barely affect Ukraine's fighting potential, so it doesn't matter if he didn't order strikes on hospitals as he's effectively striking them through the energy system.
 
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ianh said:
The truth however doesn't feed their hate so they won't believe it
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The truth is that Putin is responsible for a murderous war of aggression - is it so unreasonable to hate him?

It's a little bit irrelevant whether he is personally deciding which hospital / block of flats / substation to attack, as he's still the one responsible for it happening. He started the war, he has shaped his country's political and military systems, and he has not put a stop to the attacks.
 
GreatAuk said:
Indeed... But if we & the rest of 'the west' were to spend even 10% of what we're losing / spending to mitigate the economic impact of the war on a crash manufacturing effort to produce more missiles and other much needed materiel then they might as well grow on trees.

I can see arguments for not going too overboard with support for Ukraine, but at the same time it's very frustrating to know we could be doing a whole lot more to help them... And at this point I think we should be doing even more.
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Component production needs to be distributed. The issue is manufacturing this kind of component is a large (read government assisted investment).
The UK sold off ARM but they only design chips and not manufacture.

The UK shot themselves in not investing in the capability.. we have the brains in universities but we sold off manufacturing to become a service based economy.
 
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