COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Werewolf said:
So to put things in a short form, if long covid is real (and it looks to be, we know covid does damage, and there is research showing persistent micro clots in some people)
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Personally I think there are a good number of people who have pre-existing conditions they've not been to a doctor about for various reasons using long COVID as a way to get medical attention - a lot of people don't like going to the doctor for various reasons whether social anxiety, embarrassment, or other but long COVID is a kind of more generally recognised thing.

Having had COVID and seen how it can attack other organs though I don't doubt there are people with all kinds of long COVID - if I'd not started to get better when I did even a couple more days would have likely seen serious long term damage IMO. If the infection went to say someone's kidneys (which it is capable of), etc. and was more than just mild it could have all kinds of consequences through to a long term debilitating condition.
 
Philtor said:
I never had any vaccine as I wasn’t too keen on the mRNA thing.

I got Covid for the first time shortly after Boxing day. I woke up in bed thinking this is it kid, you are done for. Could just about move over in my bed!

Never felt anything like it. But… I live to tell the tale! Covid 0 / Phil 1.
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my mate didn't have the vaccine. not an antivaxxer. just a lazy sod who works for him self.from home and could never be bothered with the drive, and also some had told him of awful side effects. he started with covid early December 2021 (we were having a remote gaming night and he started with a vicious cold).
mid 40s. fit bloke ,. he was a gnats pube of hospital in the end , his O2 sats bottomed out, and he coughed so much he tore his stomach muscles and he said he also thought he may give himself a stroke such was the pain in his head when he coughed. he was still not right by end of Jan 2022.
would the vaccine have stopped him getting covid ? possibly not.. my wife is fully jabbed up and she got covid the same Xmas and has had it once since. I have had it once too .

However whilst I can't prove it, I would bet everything i own that IF he had been jabbed up and boosted like he should have been (they were rolling out the booster early Dec 2021 for our group) even if he had got covid it would have been far milder than he had.
 
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Mickie said:
Reciting memories you have isn’t good data, you’re as much in the dark about long term illness as I am regarding covid.
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Tephnos said:
We are discovering that vaccines in general (and viral infections!) mess with women's menstrual cycles.

You know why this is such a shock to the (largely male) scientific community? We never bothered looking at this before.

This is more a problem of women being ignored than 'mRNA bad'.
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It's also a report from project veritas so it's about 90% likely to be taking a few words edited out of context, if not made up of whole cloth going by their record for previous convictions and losses when they've been sued by their previous victims.
 
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CapitalOne said:
Has it come to supposed secret videos of people’s pub chat?

If people are buying that great, it will make my world takeover plans much easier.
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I think you're afraid it just might be true. You should steer clear of the other video, where they confront him with the recordings, and he goes into an absolute meltdown.
 
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Smokey Deza said:
I think you're afraid it just might be true. You should steer clear of the other video, where they confront him with the recordings, and he goes into an absolute meltdown.
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Show us some REAL evidence and maybe we might consider the possibility of it being true.

Posting some "under the table pub chat" video and You'll be treated with the contempt it deserves.

Posting some "I think you're just afraid it might be true" horse excrement and all it proves is your level of projection is off the charts.
 
Smokey Deza said:
I think you're afraid it just might be true. You should steer clear of the other video, where they confront him with the recordings, and he goes into an absolute meltdown.
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Look up vertias's legal history.

They're a bunch of lying grifters and criminals at best, it's amazing they've not seen the inside of a jail cell yet given some of what they've been up to (they broke into a judges rooms to try and tap his phone from memory, as well as others).
 
ebilcake said:
Surprised to see so many audiences at events / tv still wearing face nappies, it's so creepy.

We know they were next to useless, it makes no sense for them to be required anymore.
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Surprised to see so many people in Passenger Aircraft wearing seatbelts, it's so creepy.

We know they are next to useless in a plane crash, it makes no sense for them to be required anymore.

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Meta study analysis shows face coverings as useless.

Also, Scotland needs to report by summer the cause behind a big spike in new born baby deaths around the time of vaccine approval for pregnant women. Probably a coincidence that one. But probably not when it also occurred again with the booster roll out.

Murmurrings of raw new born numbers also showing a marked drop 9-10 months after the roll out of vaccines to young people and not really recovering afterwards in a good few countries now. What's interesting about this one is the timings are different in each country depending on when that approval happened. Will be interesting to see what the staticians make of that one.

Given early warnings of lipid particles accumulating in heart and ovary tissue by some loon years ago, that guy that evented mRNA technology?, what would he know? Oh boy.

And a cheeky wee edit:

The MHRA never actually advised it was safe for pregnant or breastfeeding women to get vaccinated, just part of the moral panic forcing that one:
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Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech

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In the context of supply under Regulation 174, it is considered that sufficient reassurance of safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time: however, use in women of childbearing potential could be supported provided healthcare professionals are advised to rule out known or suspected pregnancy prior to vaccination. Women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated.
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Tephnos said:
We are discovering that vaccines in general (and viral infections!) mess with women's menstrual cycles.

You know why this is such a shock to the (largely male) scientific community? We never bothered looking at this before.

This is more a problem of women being ignored than 'mRNA bad'.
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I don't think there has ever been a time in Western history when women have been less ignored, less platformed, more opinionated and more vocal with their opinions.
 
Chris Wilson said:
I don't think there has ever been a time in Western history when women have been less ignored, less platformed, more opinionated and more vocal with their opinions.
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The problem is, that they have been for centuries and we're only now discovering how different their biology can respond compared to men.

It's taken until quite recently for the first really accurate crash test dummies for women to be made that take into account the difference in bone structure, and so many day to day things are based on measurements taken for "an average person" where all the people tested were male*, and then just assuming women and children were like smaller adult males.

So yes things are improving, but that doesn't magically make up for decades/centuries of not paying attention and medical tests not being designed to take what can be huge differences in "normal" blood chemistry/biology into account.


*You still see variations of this today in the latest tech, where design teams making devices that react to things like "light sensors" being triggered find out that what works well in a lab full of white men doesn't work well when the lighting isn't as good and the skin colour is darker (same with face matching tech).
 
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