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Sankari said:
He is ethnically Indian, and British by nationality, this isn't rocket science. Next you're going to try and tell me he's not even Asian.

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This only seem to matter if the ethnicity also makes someone a different colour. If his parents were from France and his surname was Bailly this wouldn't be a descusion.

He doesn't have dual nationality, and his nationality is British.
 
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Storm Shadow missiles: UK sending long-range weapons to Ukraine, defence secretary confirms

Sky News understands some of the missiles are already in Ukraine. Ukraine has long been calling for such weapons, but the US and other countries have been unwilling to supply them in case strikes inside Russia lead to escalation.
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*UK DefMin Wallace: UK is Donating Storm Shadow Long-Range Missiles to Ukraine
*UK DefMin Wallace: This Donation Gives Ukraine Best Chance to Defend Themselves
*UK DefMin Wallace: Storm Shadow Missiles Will Allow Ukraine to Push Back Russian Forces Based in Ukrainian Sovereign Territory
*UK DefMin Wallace: These Missiles Are Not in Same League as Some Long Range Weapons Russia Has Used
*UK DefMin Wallace: I Judge This is a Calibrated and Proportionate Response to Russian Escalations
*UK DefMin Wallace: Won’t Comment on When Missiles Will Be Used
*UK DefMin Wallace: We Should Manage Expectations That War Will Be Over by Christmas
 
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bris said:
Are you sure about that?

Corruption is rife and the UK is as bad as anyone, tt makes the Ukrainians look like petty thieves.

You remember that little virus that went about, they called it covid. Well you want to talk corruption?

The tories awarded them selves and their families and backers litterlay tens on billions of pound in contracts. A lot of which weren't even delivered.

one tory MP got a shipping contract 150 million he didnt have any ships, the contract was still paid out, no deliveries.

Another got 100 million, all the stuff was useless and destroyed, he still go paid out.

Yes talk about other countries corruption when the biggest ones are hidden in plain sight.

That moron from the jungle gave his own family a massive contract, christ he even gave his local pup landlord where he drank a 9 million pound contract,

So yea Ukraine are just amateurs compared to our tories.

Even now Sunaks wifes companies are still getting contracts, you know that mobile phone alert system they were testing last week?

Well guess who ended up with that contract in the end despite going through three different companies to get there? Yip is was eventually subbed out to a company owned by his wife
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I am surprised that so many posters here do not realise how corruption works in "advanced" economies like the UK's!

That brown-envelops and straight bribes have been so old-fashioned here for ages should be common knowledge by now surely? Always a bit suspicious about the likes of Transparency International's various indexes: some countries do their corruption differently so focusing mostly on "straight bribes" makes those indexes and reports questionable.

Of course, "advanced" economies usually have such a big pot that for the average citizen it is not as huge a burden as, for instance, Sierra Leon (the worst country according to TI's Barometer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Corruption_Barometer) where 84% of respondents said they had had to pay bribes. In the UK it is "only" 5%.

Still, this is only somewhat tangent to Russia's war in Ukraine.
 
KompuKare said:
I am surprised that so many posters here do not realise how corruption works in "advanced" economies like the UK's!

That brown-envelops and straight bribes have been so old-fashioned here for ages should be common knowledge by now surely? Always a bit suspicious about the likes of Transparency International's various indexes: some countries do their corruption differently so focusing mostly on "straight bribes" makes those indexes and reports questionable.

Of course, "advanced" economies usually have such a big pot that for the average citizen it is not as huge a burden as, for instance, Sierra Leon (the worst country according to TI's Barometer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Corruption_Barometer) where 84% of respondents said they had had to pay bribes. In the UK it is "only" 5%.

Still, this is only somewhat tangent to Russia's war in Ukraine.
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Cash is still very prevalent in corruption, even in so called civilised western democracies, for eample the "suitcases full of cash" the European Union hierarchy are being investigated for receiving. cash can still very much be King. I am not sure how the EU are paying for their ex Russia oil....But paying for it they most certainly are.
 
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Roar87 said:
Well fortunately there's actually a ranking system for corruption by country, and anyone who thinks the UK is "as bad as anyone" is just demonstrating how clueless they are on how bad corruption is around the world.
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Unless the corruption ranking system is corrupt or corrupt people in the UK are much better at concealing their corruption;)
 
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