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[inogen]

£40m is nothing in the current market so wages of £200k/week aren't exactly crazy high. Sancho in the right team is top class and hes only 23. I don't know who would buy him but I don't think that figure is at all unrealistic.

There's only 6 clubs in the PL that pay players 200k per week (if you discount Lingaard's crazy salary at Forest).

Majority of those are at Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea. Liverpool only pay Van Dyke, Salah and Thiago 200kpw. Tottenham pay one. Kane at bang on £200k. Even Man City only pay 6 players £200kpw+ and Chelsea pay 5. Man Utd pay 8 (them tightwad Glazers).

Sancho is on £350kpw. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/rankings/weekly/

He'll be going nowhere until his last year maybe when other clubs can amortise £17/18m across a five year deal.

 

[inogen]

Yeah but it's what that 200k does to the rest of the squad when he turns out to be an average bench player.

Yeah. Other clubs would want him to take a much lower salary and get a signing on fee/loyalty bonus from Man Utd to cover his wages shortfall. Then account that as part of the transfer fee.

If he was being sold in this summer say, a signing club would probably we willing to pay him (tops) £150kpw. That's about £40m short of his current contract, so effectively, if he was sold for £40m, he'd be leaving on a free as Man Utd would be giving any transfer fee directly to Sancho.

I don't think anyone is paying £40m for him right now, I don't think Sancho would want to drop like that and I think Man Utd would probably rather keep him rather than cut their losses to that extent. A tough deal that suits nobody. Be different as he gets closer to the end of his contract, but Man U are going to get nothing out of any deal unless he improves markedly and one of the other big paying clubs wants him, or a smaller club makes him a marquee signing. Even then, they ain't getting £40-50m out of it. Ever.

 

[BaZ87]

£40m is nothing in the current market so wages of £200k/week aren't exactly crazy high. Sancho in the right team is top class and hes only 23. I don't know who would buy him but I don't think that figure is at all unrealistic.

You say £40m is nothing because Utd **** money up the wall each season and then half you fanbase complain about not spending enough. That's not the reality for the majority of clubs though and certainly not for the level of club that would sign Sancho from Utd. Clubs that think £40m for Sancho is nothing don't want Sancho and that's the problem Utd will have.

A Spurs or Dortmund might commit to spending that sort of fee and wage on a player but it will be a big decision for them and something they'd only commit to for a player that would be key for them.

There's only 6 clubs in the PL that pay players 200k per week (if you discount Lingaard's crazy salary at Forest).

80% of those are at Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea. Liverpool only pay Van Dyke and Salah that sort of money. Tottenham pay one. Kane at bang on £200k.

Sancho is on £350kpw. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/rankings/weekly/

He'll be going nowhere until his last year maybe when other clubs can amortise £17/18m across a five year deal.

I wouldn't pay any attention to those reports, they're all guesswork and usually completely wrong. Liverpool are paying far more than Salah and VVD that sort of money. Our wagebill is over £360m per season. The great Swiss Ramble estimates that between 80% and 90% (80% for clubs like Liverpool & Utd, 90% for smaller clubs) of a clubs overall wagebill will be paid to the first team squad and handful of key coaching staff (manager + 1 or 2 others). Liverpool's average first team salary won't be far off £200k per week, which means several will be earning over that amount.

 

[inogen]

I wouldn't pay any attention to those reports, they're all guesswork and usually completely wrong. Liverpool are paying far more than Salah and VVD that sort of money. Our wagebill is over £360m per season. The great Swiss Ramble estimates that between 80% and 90% (80% for clubs like Liverpool & Utd, 90% for smaller clubs) of a clubs overall wagebill will be paid to the first team squad and handful of key coaching staff (manager + 1 or 2 others). Liverpool's average first team salary won't be far off £200k per week, which means several will be earning over that amount.

I doubt it will this season.

 

[Robbo]

Given the above, the best thing to do with Sancho is to keep hold of him and try and get him playing consistently. You can see he's got ability.

 

[Converge]

Given the above, the best thing to do with Sancho is to keep hold of him and try and get him playing consistently. You can see he's got ability.

Indeed, give it one more season when hopefully we’ve brought in a bit more talent consistent with how ETH wants to play and then can properly judge. There’s a player there, just needs the right people around him.

 

[BaZ87]

I doubt it will this season.

Possibly but we'll have to wait until the accounts are released around March next year. For last season though our wagebill was £366m - 80% of that split by 30 first team squad and staff equates to an average of just shy of £190k per week.

As a comparison and to explain the original point regarding the difficulties of shifting players like Sancho (or Keita for us), there's a massive drop off even to clubs like Spurs and Arsenal. Their average based on 85% of last seasons wagebill (they have fewer non football staff than Liverpool or Utd) is closer to £110k per week.

 

[Robbo]

So there has been a briefing today about the sale situation, this about sums it up -

https://twitter.com/x/status/1657087234380554241

Looks like it'll be INEOS unless the Qatari's up their bid again.

Given they spent £200bn~ on the World Cup, I find it slightly strange the Qatari's aren't prepared to spend a bit more in order to secure the crown jewel of football in terms of marketing/exposure, which is what they want. Perhaps Sheikh Jassim is not as state-backed as he first appeared...

 

[C Kent]

Given they spent £200bn~ on the World Cup, I find it slightly strange the Qatari's aren't prepared to spend a bit more in order to secure the crown jewel of football in terms of marketing/exposure, which is what they want.

Neither Real Madrid or Barcelona are up for sale?

 

[Robbo]

Neither Real Madrid or Barcelona are up for sale?

Debatable I suppose but Man Utd are right up there in terms of global exposure/marketing.

 

[C Kent]

Debatable I suppose but Man Utd are right up there in terms of global exposure/marketing.

They are both streets ahead of the prem clubs. Anyway, I assume because Radclifffe is out in front that was why #Radcliffe out was trending on twitter earlier?

 

[sigma]

They are both streets ahead of the prem clubs. Anyway, I assume because Radclifffe is out in front that was why #Radcliffe out was trending on twitter earlier?

Both operate in a farmer's league. Both deserve less respect that the almighty Reds. MUFC is the greatest brand in the world!

 

[Converge]

Makes me feel like the Glazers are playing them against each other and hyping Ratcliffe in the hope that Jassim will cave and go all out to get what he wants. It’d be their style, that’s for sure.

 

[Droolinggimp]

This is dragging on. At this point I wouldn't care if Cleatus the redneck, a US powerball winner came in with a bid.

 

[adam cool dude]

This is dragging on. At this point I wouldn't care if Cleatus the redneck, a US powerball winner came in with a bid.

If Ratcliffe were to come in now it wouldn't be any different. Exactly the same as before. We have no problem with revenue to spend. We need owners who are going to invest in the club.

If Ratcliffe gets in and Glazers stay I think most clubs will quietly breath a sigh of relief.

 

[Billz2023]

Makes me feel like the Glazers are playing them against each other and hyping Ratcliffe in the hope that Jassim will cave and go all out to get what he wants. It’d be their style, that’s for sure.

That is 100% what the glazers are doing. Now it's Qatars time to respond and I hope they get it in the end. SJR won't have us competing with city anytime soon and its not just about the money the stadium infrastructure needs revamping and qatar are the ones that can get this done quickly.

Let's see what happens I'm hoping qatar checkmate Jim this week should be interesting no way they walk away after coming this far hope all resolved soon this has been dragging on far too long.

 

[omnomnom]

That is 100% what the glazers are doing. Now it's Qatars time to respond and I hope they get it in the end. SJR won't have us competing with city anytime soon and its not just about the money the stadium infrastructure needs revamping and qatar are the ones that can get this done quickly.

Let's see what happens I'm hoping qatar checkmate Jim this week should be interesting no way they walk away after coming this far hope all resolved soon this has been dragging on far too long.

What is it you need to compete with City as has been pointed out several times...you already spend an absolute bucketload on transfers. Why are you so confident that the Quaris are going to get it right or do you simply want to be backed by a state with seemingly unlimited money?

 

[adam cool dude]

What is it you need to compete with City as has been pointed out several times...you already spend an absolute bucketload on transfers. Why are you so confident that the Quaris are going to get it right or do you simply want to be backed by a state with seemingly unlimited money?

Investing in the club is what people want and The Ratcliffe bid cannot do that. Everyone wants a United that is debt free and world leaders in training and stadium facilities not leaking rusty mess.

 

[Billz2023]

What is it you need to compete with City as has been pointed out several times...you already spend an absolute bucketload on transfers. Why are you so confident that the Quaris are going to get it right or do you simply want to be backed by a state with seemingly unlimited money?

Its not about the money have you seen the state of old Trafford, youth facilities none of it has been upgraded by the glazers. I don't mind either to be honest but as SJR is sleeping with the glazers I rather Qatar who will 100% buy the whole club instead of getting in bed with the glazers that's the best outcome in this moment.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Any news on Rashford?