Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Roar87 said:
How many soldiers does Russia have in Ukraine do you think? Given they mobilised 300,000, and presumably also had most of their army there, there must be 500,000 men in Ukraine.
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At least 200,000 less than they started with... The thing is not every soldier is on the front line shooting things. You'll have some doing admin, payroll. enlistment etc, some doing logistics, medics etc .

 
nsmalley said:
At least 200,000 less than they started with... The thing is not every soldier is on the front line shooting things. You'll have some doing admin, payroll. enlistment etc, some doing logistics, medics etc .
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By the state of their logistics, that can't be very many ;)

And seeing the way they abandon their injured, they can't have a lot of requirements for medics either :p
 
nsmalley said:
At least 200,000 less than they started with... The thing is not every soldier is on the front line shooting things. You'll have some doing admin, payroll. enlistment etc, some doing logistics, medics etc .

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To be fair I dont think there are many doing payroll on the Russian side. ;)
 
nsmalley said:
At least 200,000 less than they started with... The thing is not every soldier is on the front line shooting things. You'll have some doing admin, payroll. enlistment etc, some doing logistics, medics etc .

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And who is providing that 200,000 figure? Because I doubt it's accurate and I bet even Russia would struggle with a true figure. Even if there were 200,000 casualties, most won't be kia and a lot will return to action after treatment. Basically, we have no idea. I'd suggest there's a hell of a lot Russians in East Ukraine though.
 
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Do we know why they are putting defences on the Crimean coast, surely Russia don't expect an amphibious assault by Ukraine.
 
XPE said:
Do we know why they are putting defences on the Crimean coast, surely Russia don't expect an amphibious assault by Ukraine.
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Makes sense if they are trying to sell they are defending against US/NATO aggression though. Their military mentality seems to be significantly rooted in WW1 and 2 as well so in that respect maybe it makes sense to them.
 
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Rroff said:
It is a very tricky dynamic but a relatively small number of people can tie up a significant amount of Russian resources doing something like this.
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It's amazing how many troops you can tie up when you have a hostile force in your rear lines. In WW2 around 76 prisoners escaped from Stalag Luft III camp (the film The Great Escape was based on this) to which the Germans committed 30,000 troops to recapture them (although most of them were shot). I tend to think though Russia doesn't give too hoots about Belgrod and won't weaken it's position on the front lines to fire fight this.
 
Scougar said:
Little confused. We have known about their defense on the Crimean coast and others for MONTHS. With respect, this isn't news where you try to make yourself look good.
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Yeah the scenes of the Crimean beach are very old in the context of this thread.
 
Roar87 said:
And who is providing that 200,000 figure? Because I doubt it's accurate and I bet even Russia would struggle with a true figure. Even if there were 200,000 casualties, most won't be kia and a lot will return to action after treatment. Basically, we have no idea. I'd suggest there's a hell of a lot Russians in East Ukraine though.
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It's all educated guess work, I doubt even the Russians truly know how many troops they have Ukraine. The last number I saw was an estimated 300k/350k troops which was provided by the US (maybe the M.O.D can't remember) and that was recently (less then a month ago) and that sort of level does stack up with what we know about Russia's starting numbers, mobilisation and casualties.

Russian Invasion Army 24th Feb 2022: Crica 150,000
LPR & DPR mobilisation, Wagner, Chechens and assorted others: Circa 50,000
Mobilisation 21st Sept 2022: 300,000
Casualties: (200,000)/(250,000)
Net: Crica 300,0000
 
Roar87 said:
And who is providing that 200,000 figure? Because I doubt it's accurate and I bet even Russia would struggle with a true figure. Even if there were 200,000 casualties, most won't be kia and a lot will return to action after treatment. Basically, we have no idea. I'd suggest there's a hell of a lot Russians in East Ukraine though.
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Unfortunately Roar there has been plenty of footage of wounded Russian fighters taking their own lives. I am not sure battlefield triage is as key a priority. So I would hazard a guess at a greater percentage of wounded may not make it.
 
Roar87 said:
How many soldiers does Russia have in Ukraine do you think? Given they mobilised 300,000, and presumably also had most of their army there, there must be 500,000 men in Ukraine.
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Minus the 200,000+ dead and wounded.

Edit: already mentioned.


It's a shame the rapid reaction force the VDV now stands for Very Dead Vatniks.
 
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