Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I doubt Ukraine are going to officially throw much support behind this, they may have a few volunteers who went along but I can't see them throwing battalions behind it.

A lot of the support they get is because they aren't marching into Russia proper, even if they could.
 
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Depleted uranium does not release gamma radiation so it's a BS story

That being said the other story doing the rounds was that Russia had a tactical nuke storage facility a few km away from the towns that were captured and they moved the weapons away. Perhaps this movement of weapons slightly increased background radiation
 
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How reliable is that account?

As I understand it depleted uranium is only mildly radioactive and for it to set off scanners for airborne radiation would require something more than simply being involved in an ammo explosion, as you'd get chunks of DU not a great number of airborne particulates.

I think that is a micky take of the Russian claims that all the DU ammo for the Challenger 2s got blown up a week or so back due to a "spike" in radiation.

AFAIK DU ammo if it was subject to destruction like that would result in some gamma radiation emission but it is really really low - 10,000 rounds would be roughly similar to a truck load of fertilizer - you'd need around a million rounds or something to produce a spike in background levels like that.

EDIT: I might be wrong but pretty sure a week later and 250+km away it would be pretty much imperceptible against background variation.
 
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I doubt Ukraine are going to officially throw much support behind this, they may have a few volunteers who went along but I can't see them throwing battalions behind it.

A lot of the support they get is because they aren't marching into Russia proper, even if they could.

Depends a lot what kind of response it gets I suspect - if Russian forces not committed in Ukraine are spread really really thin, political angles aside, it might be beneficial for Ukraine to provide some support in keeping the situation simmering, especially if it means Russia has to pull more experienced forces out of Ukraine to deal with it.
 
Yes this thread is basically Twitter central now, with all sorts of crap being posted. I sort of miss Turns earlier more factual posts of what was actually going on in the thread rather than just random meme stuff.

There are some well-informed posters here, writing interesting and thoughtful posts.

But there are others who just chuck mud at the wall
 
Things can always look worse. Like losing Bakhmut shortly after you take it which may well be possible! :eek:

This is such a poor showing though, you really would have assumed they would have more soldiers on that border to garrison it at least, looks like they've poured all effort into the offensive and ignored defense totally.
But did they take it.

Russia are so desperate for a victory they said they did, but Ukraine says otherwise, its still being fought over.

They have a lot of it but still not it all.
 
But did they take it.

Russia are so desperate for a victory they said they did, but Ukraine says otherwise, its still being fought over.

They have a lot of it but still not it all.

I like to call a spade a spade, on this one it does seem like they took it, even if temporarily.

Though I'm sure Ukraine won't let them rest on their laurels, and they'll be looking to keep them tied down defending it, whilst they keep the momentum on the flanks.

If Russia retreat from holding Bakhmut then Ukraine will just move back in and reverse any gains they have made. Encirclement is still far away, but there may come a time when they have to retreat whilst the going is still good.
 
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