Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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So now you are a sofa 4 star questioning Ukraine tactics/planning? Planning I'm sure they are getting help with from her allies. This isn't World of Tanks Roar.

I think Ukraine is being advised on tactics, but ultimately it is their decision. Zelensky seemed unwilling to admit defeat over Bakhmut with Biden having to walk on egg shells a bit when he spoke about it. It seemed like it could be a sore point. Yeah I don't think it was a good use of resources, but emotions do get in the way of sound strategies sometimes. I don't play World of Tanks, I love military history though. I'm the kind of guy who will sit and watch all of something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKi3NwLFkX4&t=87s&ab_channel=RichardMackenzie
 
Russian propagandist says Britain must be nuked now to stop Ukraine getting F16 jets.

The other try to remind him that the US/NATO would respond military; but he refuses to believe that, he says he's certain no one will do anything


Towards the end of the video it looks like he starts having a panick attack when he realises there is thousands of F16 jets in the world, creating an almost endless supply for Ukraine

Does he understand that the UK has its own Nukes, we're not defenceless againt his nuclera sabre rattling.
 
When the fight has moved on from Bahmukt, then it's over. Fighting is still going on in and around the city.

I suspect the actual city is 99% occupied by Russia right now though. Which is great. The city is in ruins and the enemy are just targets in their now. The city keeps giving.
 
Looks to be a continuous supply of drones from Iran.

I don't see that stopping anytime soon sadly.

Sorry nothing to do with ukraine,

But where would you charge electric tanks in a war like this ukraine one :confused:
And remember when russian knocked the electric power stations and electric power supplies out


Their support would probably have battery packs to bolt on and off for recharging.

I would assume they wouldn't be stupid enough to run out of power without backup.
 
When the fight has moved on from Bahmukt, then it's over. Fighting is still going on in and around the city.

I suspect the actual city is 99% occupied by Russia right now though. Which is great. The city is in ruins and the enemy are just targets in their now. The city keeps giving.

But Ukraine needs to keep sending soldiers there if they want to maintain pressure on the Russians. So it's not exactly an ideal scenario for the Ukrainians either. It would be better to try and cut off supply lines instead of retaking the city.
 
Their support would probably have battery packs to bolt on and off for recharging.

I would assume they wouldn't be stupid enough to run out of power without backup.
The problem is they still would need to be able to charge the flat battery packs and the battery packs would have to be huge to power a 50 ton tank

Would need a mega power outlet to charge them
 
No man, they don't still have a presence, that's just something they've said to make it not look like a loss. For all intents and purposes Russia fully controls Bankhmut. I think people need to think critically about what they're actually posting here, you know both sides use propaganda, right?

I read Russia had 5x as many losses as Ukraine in Bakhmut, that would also seem wildly unrealistic. If they were to say they had 80% of the losses then I could believe that, but 20%? Maybe if it were Royal Marines fighting against the Russian regulars.

I'd also like to suggest it was strategically stupid to use so many Ukrainian resources fighting over Bakhmut that could have been better utilised. I'm sure that would've been against all the advice given.
Thats just the deluded Russian in you talking, they are still very much fighting in Bakhmut.

The failure to take Bakhmut was very much an embarrassment to Prigozhin after all his boasting about it but not being able to get the job done

Like a typical failed leader when you cant do it you just say it's done anyway, it's for their captive audience in Russia not us, or at least not most of us.
 
Thats just the deluded Russian in you talking, they are still very much fighting in Bakhmut.

The failure to take Bakhmut was very much an embarrassment to Prigozhin after all his boasting about it but not being able to get the job done

Like a typical failed leader when you cant do it you just say it's done anyway, it's for their captive audience in Russia not us, or at least not most of us.

I'm honestly not sure what you achieve out of lying in a thread on OcUK about the reality of the situation in Ukraine.

Ukraine claimed they had forces near the MiG-17 monument in Bakhmut, but Wagner forces have video showing themselves at that monument, and Ukraine also reported no fighting in Bakhmut (because they no longer have forces there). The fighting is 1km away to the North West.

 
But Ukraine needs to keep sending soldiers there if they want to maintain pressure on the Russians. So it's not exactly an ideal scenario for the Ukrainians either. It would be better to try and cut off supply lines instead of retaking the city.

Could Ukraine bombard it from a safer distance? The place is already completely ruined and the civilians are already dead or gone.
 
When it comes to Russian politics there's no such thing as 'opposition parties' as we would know them.
They don't have the same divide as say Labour v Tories. But their two main parties are about as different as the Democrats and Republicans.

The problem is that Russia's main opposition party is even worse than the ruling party lol (they've been ragging on Putin for being too soft on Ukraine for years).


Turkey are so scummy. Be good to see the back of Erdoğan at this point.
Turkey basically got into NATO on the basis they were either joining NATO or becoming allies of the USSR so they got handed the moon on a stick to join NATO, hence why the west mostly turned a blind eye when they launched a military invasion of Cyprus (an occupation that's ongoing to this day and the reason they can never join the EU despite what the Daily Mail says).
 
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I suspect the actual city is 99% occupied by Russia right now though. Which is great. The city is in ruins and the enemy are just targets in their now. The city keeps giving.
Sadly the condition of the city isn't particularly relevant to the Russians :( the value of the city for Russia isn't really in holding it but in ensuring Ukraine doesn't hold it. This is due partially due to it's huge propaganda value but also due to it's proximity to important supply/transport routes they need to advance (yes they're still planning on trying to do that lol).
 
I'm honestly not sure what you achieve out of lying in a thread on OcUK about the reality of the situation in Ukraine.

Ukraine claimed they had forces near the MiG-17 monument in Bakhmut, but Wagner forces have video showing themselves at that monument, and Ukraine also reported no fighting in Bakhmut (because they no longer have forces there). The fighting is 1km away to the North West.

Tbh I'm not really keeping up with things but 1km? That's not even a 10min walk. 1km away from most city centres is still the city centre.
 
Reports are it’s taken on water, if true and it sinks then this is huge.

Turns out that ship is a radar ship that detects all incoming missiles etc and passes it on to the other ships to shoot them down.

if this sinks it could be a huge blow to their defences.

Even if it doesn’t sink, where that drone struck, if where it was when the video feed cut was where it actually exploded, then you’re looking at years for repairs, if it can even be repaired at all.

That area of the ship would contain the steering gear, all the hydraulics and electric motors required to operate the vessels rudder(s). If that’s been destroyed, and then also factor in issues with shockwave damage to the frames and stringers that make up the hull, and also the stern tube and propeller shaft likely being damaged or misaligned as well, then it may be quicker to build a new ship than try to carry out such extensive, and costly repairs.
 
Not seeing any reports of Russian strategic aviation activity - haven't been monitoring the channels myself tonight due to work. But NATO assets moving to positions over Poland suggests they are responding to something. Some attack drone activity.
 
Could Ukraine bombard it from a safer distance? The place is already completely ruined and the civilians are already dead or gone.

They could, but the artillery still needs support, and you need to know what you're firing at, which is difficult without feet on the ground closer to your target.
 
Ukraine has formally requested the Taurus cruise missile from Germany. The Taurus missile holds a 500kg high penetration warhead and with a 500km range and has a max speed of Mach 0.9


The main problem as far as I can tell is that none of Ukraine's current planes support the missile and that includes the future F16, however it may be possible to integrate the missile into the F16 or use the missile like Ukraine has used agm-88 and storm shadow which is to pre program on the ground and drop them from the sky as fire and forget


 
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