Road Cycling

I have a heart rate monitor that I use for rough exertion data and I feel like it quite dramatically overrates my effort. I'm sure the heart rate data is correct but it puts my rides in higher zones than it feels. I just did a nice and easy ride where I was basically never out of breath, legs never really felt much effort and it still suggested I spent most of the time in zone 4 and quite a bit of time in zone 3

On a slightly related note, I think this was one of the first rides I have ever done where I took it completely leisurely. It was very nice. Can recommend. Gives you much more time to admire the scenery and decide which houses I want to buy when I win the lottery. It was surprisingly fast as well all things considered.
Like power, your heart rate zones are dynamic over time and will change according factors including fitness, fatigue and illness.

https://intervals.icu/ is a donate-ware site that does give you a Lactate Threshold Heart Rate estimate, using 98% of your highest average 20mins iirc, which is effectively your zone 4 ceiling.

Some apps/sites simply decide your heart zones based simply on your max known heart rate.

Over the last six years, my LTHR has been anywhere from approx 155 to 175, high when in relative good shape and low after prolonged health issues. YMMV, everyone is different, for example I'm aware @Roady often races on Zwift with higher average numbers than myself.
 
https://intervals.icu/ is a donate-ware site that does give you a Lactate Threshold Heart Rate estimate, using 98% of your highest average 20mins iirc, which is effectively your zone 4 ceiling.

Where does it say the estimate. I can only see the one I set.


Has anyone got any tips on keeping energy levels up after a cycle? The last 3 or so weeks I've moved pretty much all my cycling outdoors in the mornings and the tiredness for the rest of the day is killing me. I've dropped the training load with more rest days and getting plenty of food in to, but my weekends are really unproductive afterwards. Performance on the bike has remained good (i.e. got myself a KOM on a hill near my house last week) so I don't think I'm ill.
 
Where does it say the estimate. I can only see the one I set.
If you exceed the value you have in athlete settings, it will inform you on the activity summary in red, but leaves it to you to set it or not (in case your heart rate is unusually high due to abnormal circumstances).
 
Only KOM i have is from doing a charity race around an airport runway. Once i completed the ride I was surprised to find segments on it but there was. I was showing second with the top spot doing 300 km/h or something stupid. I would take a guess that someone left their Garmin on whilst taking a trip away on a lear jet lol.. Luckily i reported it and strava deleted it. true story.
Haha they just flag it to the owner, they're then presented with options to resolve. I think they used to manually look at them, but there are times now when I think it's semi-automated. Certainly once a ride has been flagged with obvious vehicle/GPS issues then can then be marked as resolved with them still in it. Annoying thing then is a ride can't be flagged again as it's previously had all of it's problems 'resolved'. Bit of a failing.

Only thing I would say is enjoy your KOM's. I'm down to 3 or 4 at this point and increasingly find myself nowhere near on anything I attempt, kinda given up trying last few seasons. I'm in the wrong place for good routes/surfaces as been so many fast riders (still are) around here. I'm also putting out better consistent numbers than I've done for a while, so hopefully bit of a transition to more hills outside this year can maybe consider attempting more... Hmm!

Some kinda assisted-AI type app - which looks at your power graphs, your geographical area and segments you attempt, which then trawls segments for those you've not ridden, or not put similar efforts into to improve times/target KOM's. Now we're talking of using AI for the right things! KOM hunting! ;)

Like power, your heart rate zones are dynamic over time and will change according factors including fitness, fatigue and illness.

https://intervals.icu/ is a donate-ware site that does give you a Lactate Threshold Heart Rate estimate, using 98% of your highest average 20mins iirc, which is effectively your zone 4 ceiling.

Some apps/sites simply decide your heart zones based simply on your max known heart rate.

Over the last six years, my LTHR has been anywhere from approx 155 to 175, high when in relative good shape and low after prolonged health issues. YMMV, everyone is different, for example I'm aware @Roady often races on Zwift with higher average numbers than myself.
Great advice and insight. I have my zones set on Strava but have to admit they've remained the same for many years. But my HR 'range' hasn't really changed too much over that time. I think I originally got them from my max HR on Strava, then when I did work on TR used the data there to verify the zones where somewhere near. But that's many years ago now.

I race a lot on Zwift, my avg and max HR's on there far higher than when I ride outside. But much of that is my 'race' fitness. I peak high when I'm in good fitness and form - while able to recover from it. But most the time riding fatigued drags it down. The few times I ride slightly rested it peak up higher - still see over 190bpm sometimes. If I lose fitness and go to massively rested (good example is 2 weeks off the bike last year in America/Disney) then returning to ride, I'll have a big bump of average HR, maybe even massive peaks, but I cannot recover from it (was feeling this one for days, went too deep for too long) - https://www.strava.com/activities/7320302821

Has anyone got any tips on keeping energy levels up after a cycle? The last 3 or so weeks I've moved pretty much all my cycling outdoors in the mornings and the tiredness for the rest of the day is killing me. I've dropped the training load with more rest days and getting plenty of food in to, but my weekends are really unproductive afterwards. Performance on the bike has remained good (i.e. got myself a KOM on a hill near my house last week) so I don't think I'm ill.
Calories and carbs is really the only way, but the 'right kind' of things. So things like slow release grains and such should continue to boost you throughout the day. Could maybe consider some vitamin suppliments (B? D? Iron?) but really into the realms of science that is so specific I wouldn't like to advise. Getting the balance right so never underestimate the amount of calories you're burning, give yourself some 'overhead' while your body acclimitises and gets used to the difference in training load (switching indoors to outdoors is quite different strain even if you're not riding as hard). Then make sure you decrease the intake to balance things out. As with anything like this, getting the balance right is hard/near impossible. But once you nail the recovery, the riding should get so much easier, which then is less strain and less recovery. Recovery is almost more important than riding hard when you're talking about consecutive days of regular riding.
 
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Some kinda assisted-AI type app - which looks at your power graphs, your geographical area and segments you attempt, which then trawls segments for those you've not ridden, or not put similar efforts into to improve times/target KOM's. Now we're talking of using AI for the right things! KOM hunting! ;)
That would be pretty amazing! Funnily enough, yesterday I snagged a 2nd place on a segment, which isn't probably the highest I have, definitely on something ascending. I found a segment that kinda suits me that only 150 people have done! (Most around here are at least 6,000 people)
 
Calories and carbs is really the only way, but the 'right kind' of things. So things like slow release grains and such should continue to boost you throughout the day. Could maybe consider some vitamin suppliments (B? D? Iron?) but really into the realms of science that is so specific I wouldn't like to advise. Getting the balance right so never underestimate the amount of calories you're burning, give yourself some 'overhead' while your body acclimitises and gets used to the difference in training load (switching indoors to outdoors is quite different strain even if you're not riding as hard). Then make sure you decrease the intake to balance things out. As with anything like this, getting the balance right is hard/near impossible. But once you nail the recovery, the riding should get so much easier, which then is less strain and less recovery. Recovery is almost more important than riding hard when you're talking about consecutive days of regular riding.


Hmm, I did previously always have a SIS recovery drink after cycling, but it got a lot more expensive a few months back and haven't bought it since and just ate more normal food. Maybe I need to get it again...
 
I've got four pairs of Endura Pro SL bib shorts in the long leg version.

Depending on what size you need (both in the short and pad size), Wiggle have the standard length for £75 which is a steal IMO and only a fiver over budget...


DHB are ok, but many years since I rode them, Altura always been a similar level to them. Would say to look at Endura as have several friends who rate them (FS260) and would consider them better quality than the other 2. But going that £70 price range I'd also consider Sportful or Castelli if you can find the right colour & size combo also in stock (site is a nightmare). Maybe even the Endura Pro SL. They've got some Le Col around that price too (just out of stock).

But if I was spending £75 on shorts I'd be getting them elsewhere than Wiggle, probably more Rapha Core, although they've not been in a sale for a while and now £110 (not worth it, but at 75-80 they are).
Thanks both. Went for Endura FS260 in the end. First 25 miles went well!
 
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Jonny.

Fork wear. Keep riding it or not?

The grease seems to come out of the bearing I assume when very hot and then slightly polishes the steerer tube eventually turning to wear.

Can’t feel any play when adjusted but you can feel and measure the wear on the steerer which is only very slight currently.

Could someone like Rob Hayles repair? I assume he’d just infill with expoxy and be able to lathe it to the correct diameter?!

 
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British cycling has banned trans women from competing against biological women and moved the mens into an "open" class for anyone to enter. Entirely the correct decision.
 
Jonny.

Fork wear. Keep riding it or not?

The grease seems to come out of the bearing I assume when very hot and then slightly polishes the steerer tube eventually turning to wear.

Can’t feel any play when adjusted but you can feel and measure the wear on the steerer which is only very slight currently.

Could someone like Rob Hayles repair? I assume he’d just infill with expoxy and be able to lathe it to the correct diameter?!

I guess much of it depends on the thickness and if there's any danger of it wearing through. It doesn't look like it from there, looks more compressed than worn?

Is it coming lose? Providing the carbon tube retains it's structure the only thing which can happen is it developing play and just coming loose all the time. You might even find the headset being around that area is a good thing - giving it more structural integrity, but if it isn't behind that area, could it be to give you some?

Could be epoxy to build it back up to size (sounds right), but a inner sleeve to give it more strength would also be a good combo to go with that. Make it thicker & stronger unless your headset fitting/sizing would then be messed up?

British cycling has banned trans women from competing against biological women and moved the mens into an "open" class for anyone to enter. Entirely the correct decision.
The right choice, just now need the UCI to follow suit!
 
It’s the headset split ring causing the wear Roady.

Rob has given me a quote already which is about 1/4 of the cost of a new fork.

I’ll probably get it done in a few weeks and refresh the headset bearings at the same time. It will just be at the back of my mind nagging me otherwise I think!
 
I'm definitely more an evening exercise person. Just done a flying hour session and nabbed 3rd place over a 4.8 miles segment on the way back home. :D
 
Did Ride London yesterday and enjoyed it, although the mess that the start is meant I didn't meet with my friend, but rode with two guys I met on the train in. Legs felt fine at the end, so rode home and completed my first 200km ride.

The day was much like last year, Welfare stops are almost a waste of time. I got a few more gels and topped water up, but anything you would actually want had huge queues. It's like they don't know how many people are taking part or something. As before, just make use of shops/garages along the route instead.

Travel in is a pain in the bum. I got the first train, but then at a stop about 5 miles out the train driver(?) made an announcement that all bikes had to get off. He even came down the train kicking us all off... obviously you're not allowed on the under ground either. Surely they could set something up for a quite Sunday morning, once a year?

My only problem, I forgot to put suncream on. (Rookie error) Then, maybe cause riding with two guys I didn't know, so didn't want to cause delays, I didn't even search any out on route, which I really should have. Tbf, it wasn't crazy hot and I'm not too bad today, just a little sore in a couple of places.

So, it was a good day, love the open roads and the atmosphere, but I will perhaps skip it next year.
 
Travel in is a pain in the bum. I got the first train, but then at a stop about 5 miles out the train driver(?) made an announcement that all bikes had to get off.


Was it an underground train? They aren't allowed in the deep level tunnels. I didn't bother with the free stuff last year, didn't even top up my water, but would have this year if I had done it as it was much hotter. The start is why I didn't sign up this year, while I quickly forgot about it once moving, I didn't feel like going through it again this year.


I'm trying to get a few people together for the LCC hill climb at the end of September and go for a meal/drinks after.
 
Was it an underground train?
No, overground. Which, from what I'd found, was fine to do so. Once the guy kicked us off, one of the cyclists with us said it does say somewhere, no further into town than Drayton.

I had a friend who I think go into town about 20 minutes before me, somehow started an hour earlier than me. I can only assume the time difference meant there weren't very big queues to start, but as more and more trains get into London, more and more people are queuing.
 
Had a bit of a hiatus from road cycling for past few years but have started to dust my bike off again and get out on the road.

One problem I am having that I don't ever recall being an issue is that routes I have created in Garmin Connect and uploaded to my Edge 520 Plus seem to be right hand drive. Not necessarily a problem but it does have a tendency to want to send me through roundabouts the wrong way with exit 4 actually being exit 1.

Wondering if maybe if I created my routes with Strava (if I can still do this for free) then it fixes it? Dont recall this ever being a problem before
 
Had a bit of a hiatus from road cycling for past few years but have started to dust my bike off again and get out on the road.

One problem I am having that I don't ever recall being an issue is that routes I have created in Garmin Connect and uploaded to my Edge 520 Plus seem to be right hand drive. Not necessarily a problem but it does have a tendency to want to send me through roundabouts the wrong way with exit 4 actually being exit 1.

Wondering if maybe if I created my routes with Strava (if I can still do this for free) then it fixes it? Dont recall this ever being a problem before

I think it does that if you reverse the route. I've encountered it a couple of times.
 
Welfare stops are almost a waste of time. I got a few more gels and topped water up, but anything you would actually want had huge queues.
I couldn't believe the size of the stop at Elstead... bike parked about 5 miles away from the toilets. Long walk over :D

It also wasn't particularly well signposted. It said keep right so we did and then it seemed like we were going off route on some side road. Friend with us knew it from last year otherwise we'd have turned round. Marshalls at that turn didn't seem sure either...

The start seemed fine to me but I was in first wave. Only had to filter through a few earlier wave people being held on the mall.
 
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I guess it's very different starting after 8:30am. There is no way you take a wrong turn as there is a constant stream of bikes that you just follow...
 
At one point there was a group of 300+ or so. Mentally tough looking for people coming up on left, right and the guy in front. Got a bit boring so I kept finding myself off the back chatting to a mate and then we did mini efforts back into that group. After the stop mostly just my group of mates and a few that tagged on here and there.. same average speed but a lot higher effort :D

Saw some crashes too.. one guy look badly hurt with motorbike support in attendance around 50 miles in. On the A12 on the way out a guy managed to flip in front of me and somehow everyone avoided him. I suspect his front wheel got caught in a rut/long pothole.
 
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