Chances of overturning driving ban?

Hope she gets the book thrown at her tbh. Sounds like she's managed to swerve consequnces for far too long.

One fine? Sure, we all get it at some point. Two? Yeah ok, pushing it a bit but fair enough. Three or more? Get off the roads, either too arrogant or too stupid to be operating a vehicle.
 
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Haggisman said:
I'm not the one claiming that the car exceeding the speed limit is down to bad luck :cry:
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Maybe she just has a very very good car, after all even some of Motors self professed best drivers claim they can't tell if they're going above the speed limit because of how good their car is at going fast.
 
geekman said:
She needs to make an exceptional hardship plea. The most effective pleas don’t focus on hardship for the driver as after all it’s supposed to be a punishment. Instead, they focus on hardship that would be caused to others as a result of the ban.

For example, if you have an elderly relative you need to drive to medical appointments and there’s no public transport available, that could be a good argument.

It’s also wise to be explain why public transport / taxis etc would not be an option.

For those who are mentioning pleading exceptional hardship and getting the ban reduced, as far as I’m aware that never happens. You either have a successful plea in which case you don’t get banned, or you aren’t successful in which case you’re banned for 6 months. It’s not something you can negotiate.

It’s worth mentioning that you can’t use the same plea twice, so if she gets caught again she’ll have a bit of a problem.

There are forums dedicated to helping people in these sorts of situations which will probably help you out more than people will on here. Fightback forums is one of them.
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Nope my boss was only last Christmas and didnt get it reduced to no ban, just reduced to 3 months and a hefty fine. Suited him as it started beginning of towards the end of Nov so Christmas party and drink season so would be taxis anyway and then February came round quick for the ban to be over.

But his defence was mainly played out on how many employees he had and that any kind of lengthy driving ban would put their jobs in jeopardy etc. It always seem to work better if you can show hardship to other people, not yourself. He and his brief were hoping for no ban but the judge decided that wasn't acceptable as he was a repeat offender with 15 points racked up.

The positive thing is, when he got his licence back he has zero points again.
 
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Greebo said:
Nope my boss was only last Christmas and didnt get it reduced to no ban, just reduced to 3 months and a hefty fine. Suited him as it started beginning of towards the end of Nov so Christmas party and drink season so would be taxis anyway and then February came round quick for the ban to be over.

But his defence was mainly played out on how many employees he had and that any kind of lengthy driving ban would put their jobs in jeopardy etc. It always seem to work better if you can show hardship to other people, not yourself.
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Are you sure they didn’t choose to give him a 3 month ban instead of points for the final offence he committed, preventing him from totting up and getting a 6 month ban? I’ve never heard of anyone getting the 6 month totting up ban reduced to 3 months.
 
Haggisman said:
I'm not the one claiming that the car exceeding the speed limit is down to bad luck :cry:
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Neither was I. My initial comments where in response to those claiming that they'd also knowingly exceeded the limit excessively but hadn't been caught. I was framing the 'bad luck' comment in reference to simply being caught out in these instances. At no point have I referred to her actual behavior or that of the car being down to 'bad luck'.
 
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ArcticHeron said:
Neither was I. My initial comments where in response to those claiming that they'd also knowingly exceeded the limit excessively but hadn't been caught. I was framing the 'bad luck' comment in reference to simply being caught out in these instances. At no point have I referred to her actual behavior or that of the car being down to 'bad luck'.
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Getting caught 5 times isn't down to luck either. As someone else has already posted, getting caught once by a mobile camera just over the brow of a hill is bad luck.

Getting caught 5 times is down to not paying attention, either missing the speed limit signs, lack of control of the car, or missing the camera signs and the bright yellow camera or big white van.

IMO those "accidental" speeders are worse than those who enjoy a bit of twisty road or actively speed on the motorway - at least they're (usually) paying attention properly!

Whilst I hope she doesn't get banned (due to the circumstances), at the same time, she's failed to learn after 4 warnings, so what's it going to take - killing someone, like the 4 year old mentioned above?
 
Over 20 years of driving and clean so far... to be fair minor infractions even when driving carefully to the limit can happen and you only have to get unlucky once but 5+ times doesn't get much sympathy from me.

Haggisman said:
Getting caught 5 times is down to not paying attention, either missing the speed limit signs, lack of control of the car, or missing the camera signs and the bright yellow camera or big white van.

IMO those "accidental" speeders are worse than those who enjoy a bit of twisty road or actively speed on the motorway - at least they're (usually) paying attention properly!

Whilst I hope she doesn't get banned (due to the circumstances), at the same time, she's failed to learn after 4 warnings, so what's it going to take - killing someone, like the 4 year old mentioned above?
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Could be bad habits people refuse to change - I see a lot of people go past a speed limit sign then hit the brakes not bringing their speed down until 50 feet or so past the sign - would still count as speeding - I think I irritate quite a few drivers (I've actually had a colleague who was behind me moan about it in the past) because I roll off speed on the approach often without even touching the brakes into a speed limit change. Sure especially these days the chances of getting caught are quite low but I think quite a few people would be in for a shock getting caught at either end of the dual carriageway I use for commuting with its delayed speed limit change at the start and early speed limit change at the end - with people passing the 30 sign still doing 60+ - a few years ago they'd sometimes have a speed camera van sneakily placed at the end or start of the road but I've not seen it there in awhile.
 
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geekman said:
Are you sure they didn’t choose to give him a 3 month ban instead of points for the final offence he committed, preventing him from totting up and getting a 6 month ban? I’ve never heard of anyone getting the 6 month totting up ban reduced to 3 months.
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Pretty sure. He had 15 points and then when he got his licence back he now has zero and that would only happen if you have a ban AFAIK? otherwise he would still be on 15 points.
 
Yes that's how I drive too. I never understand why people hammer it up to speed limit signs then jam the brakes on as (or after) they change. Or why people plough it up to a traffic light that's red when they could just ease off the accelerator and roll up to it with the possibility of it changing to green before they get there. Why be in a hurry to join the queue?
 
When I was younger, I managed to get 12 points for a few offences in a relatively short space of time. I took the punishment (6 month ban) and just took the bus to work. This was 23 years ago and I haven't had a single point on my licence since.
 
I'm not going to judge because I'm no saint when it comes to speed limits, but how do you get caught multiple times and then still continue to mess up?

Sounds like she needs to start memorising where the cameras are.
 
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