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[gjbf1]

I'm building a PC for my son for Christmas and was in no rush for a GPU, I was hoping a 7900xt would hit below £700 and with the Starfield premium offer. Which I was going to buy starfield anyway, it was a no brainer for me as that costs £70.

Just wait till Black Friday for the mobo and CPU now.

It did yesterday. Gone back up now.

 

[JediFragger]

I cant keep up @JediFragger what happened with the 4080?

I ate it.

 

[ICDP]

I'm building a PC for my son for Christmas and was in no rush for a GPU, I was hoping a 7900xt would hit below £700 and with the Starfield premium offer. Which I was going to buy starfield anyway, it was a no brainer for me as that costs £70.

Just wait till Black Friday for the mobo and CPU now.

This was my thoughts as well. Sub £700 is where I feel the 7800 XT 7900 XT should always have been priced. I was planning to get Starfield Premium at £65 from CD Keys and get a 7800 series as an upgrade for my son’s 6700XT running at 1440p. My thoughts are the 7800 will be £550 - £600 and by then the Starfield code might not be available on an AMD deal.

So a 7900 XT for £635 after the Starfield code savings had removed my psychological and principled reasoning not to buy. And will give quite a bit more performance than the 7800 I was waiting for.

I already have a 4080FE but only because I got it used for £900. It is an excellent GPU and I cannot fault it technically, other than the 16GB VRAM “will it won’t it last” mild worry. This 7900XT is not much slower in raster and still beats my old 3080 in RT. The 4080 is undoubtedly a better GPU than this, but no chance in hell is it worth almost £500 more than this GPU at current prices. RT on my 4080 still requires up scaling tech to get playable FPS at 4K. The difference between the 4080 and the 7900 XT in RT is to use balanced or performance instead of quality in FSR. And in raster it’s pretty much a wash with ~10% stock vs stock to the 4080.

Nvidia and AMD release pricing was a joke and still is apart from the odd deal like this one. So this is not AMD coming to their senses, this is Gibbo and OCUK doing PC gamers a solid. Had AMD released the 7900 XT at £700 or even £750 instead of £899, they would have massively increased their credibility and more importantly destroyed Nvidia’s in the process.

AMD got greedy.

 

[random_matt]

Anyone tried repasting and changing thermal pads on the reference XT/XTX models? I'll be switching the Nitro for one once it gets back to overclockers. I decided I wanted to build within a Formd T1 again.

 

[random_matt]

This was my thoughts as well. Sub £700 is where I feel the 7800 XT 7900 XT should always have been priced. I was planning to get Starfield Premium at £65 from CD Keys and get a 7800 series as an upgrade for my son’s 6700XT running at 1440p. My thoughts are the 7800 will be £550 - £600 and by then the Starfield code might not be available on an AMD deal.

So a 7900 XT for £635 after the Starfield code savings had removed my psychological and principled reasoning not to buy. And will give quite a bit more performance than the 7800 I was waiting for.

I already have a 4080FE but only because I got it used for £900. It is an excellent GPU and I cannot fault it technically, other than the 16GB VRAM “will it won’t it last” mild worry. This 7900XT is not much slower in raster and still beats my old 3080 in RT. The 4080 is undoubtedly a better GPU than this, but no chance in hell is it worth almost £500 more than this GPU at current prices. RT on my 4080 still requires up scaling tech to get playable FPS at 4K. The difference between the 4080 and the 7900 XT in RT is to use balanced or performance instead of quality in FSR. And in raster it’s pretty much a wash with ~10% stock vs stock to the 4080.

Nvidia and AMD release pricing was a joke and still is apart from the odd deal like this one. So this is not AMD coming to their senses, this is Gibbo and OCUK doing PC gamers a solid. Had AMD released the 7900 XT at £700 or even £750 instead of £899, they would have massively increased their credibility and more importantly destroyed Nvidia’s in the process.

AMD got greedy.

It would have helped, however in the past AMD have had better cards and people still bought NVIDIA. Does not matter what AMD does in my eyes, they will always come second, perhaps third if Intel made a competing GPU. That is the worry in my eyes, will some of those who adore Intel switch over?

 

[Bald-Eagle22]

Guys , only out this together last night . Does all look ok and is this a good score as stock ?

I scored 25 444 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[LtMatt]

Guys , only out this together last night . Does all look ok and is this a good score as stock ?

I scored 25 444 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

Yes, looks about right. Here is my TUF OC score at stock.

I scored 27 938 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[ICDP]

Guys , only out this together last night . Does all look ok and is this a good score as stock ?

I scored 25 444 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

20468 here with the XT and a 5600X CPU. So about right for your 7900 XTX and fancy ass show off CPUs

 

[JediFragger]

Just ran my XTX Pulse at stock;

I scored 27 564 in Time Spy

Intel Core i7-13700K Processor, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

For 24/7 running it at -10 PL and 1090mV atm although not fully tested for stability.

This is result at reduced voltage as per the above, mem at 2750 (still using AB to tune atm so no Fast Timings)

I scored 27 439 in Time Spy

Intel Core i7-13700K Processor, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[MadMossy]

Specs for the 7900 GRE have been leaked, the card is basically a 7800XT. 80 CU, 16GB VRAM on a 256bit bus, expected launch price is $649

 

[LtMatt]

Just ran my XTX Pulse at stock;

I scored 27 564 in Time Spy

Intel Core i7-13700K Processor, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

For 24/7 running it at -10 PL and 1090mV atm although not fully tested for stability.

This is result at reduced voltage as per the above, mem at 2750 (still using AB to tune atm so no Fast Timings)

I scored 27 439 in Time Spy

Intel Core i7-13700K Processor, AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

Why do your results have that message about hardware monitoring disabled?

 

[JediFragger]

Why do your results have that message about hardware monitoring disabled?

No idea, I did re-enable in the program. I disabled initially as the delay irritated me

 

[ICDP]

It would have helped, however in the past AMD have had better cards and people still bought NVIDIA. Does not matter what AMD does in my eyes, they will always come second, perhaps third if Intel made a competing GPU. That is the worry in my eyes, will some of those who adore Intel switch over?

In order for there to be a major shift in perception it takes time and patience. When Nvidia were getting all the well deserved negativity for the obivous BS with the 4080 12GB and the 4080 pricing, it was not just the usual anti Nvidia suspects giving off. It was some of the most pro Nvidia sites and even fans here on OCUK who were openly ciritcal and still are.

AMD simply had to not take the total pee to gain a notable increase in brand recognition and gain deserved praise. Instead they managed to shoot themselves in the foot just before kicking the ball at the open goal and to make matters worse they shot the ball just as it was about to cross the line.

AMD obvioulsy renamed 7800 XT to 7900 XT and the 7900 XT renamed to XTX. Yay we are still cheaper than Nvidia but let's ignore the fact we are considerably slower in RT, so that £200 saving on a £1000 GPU is actually very very meh. They added insult to injury by pricing the obvious 6800 XT replacement at £900 which was just a joke and only intended to make people think the £1000 XTX was a "bargain".

Release the 7900 XT as the intended 7800 XT at £700
Release the 7900 XTX as the 7900 XT at the current £900 mark.

Both GPU are priced there now, (so the BOM is clearly not a factor) but it is 7 months too late.

 

[gjbf1]

Specs for the 7900 GRE have been leaked, the card is basically a 7800XT. 80 CU, 16GB VRAM on a 256bit bus, expected launch price is $649

Exact release date?

 

[JediFragger]

Exact release date?

No.

 

[danlightbulb]

I posted some benchmarks in the owner thread.

Timespy:
3070 FE - 13349
7900 XT stock - 21846
7900 XT +15 PL -25mV - 22897

But between the 3070 FE and stock 7900 XT I have lost nearly 1000 points on CPU score. From 12084 with the 3070 to 11142 with the 7900 XT. Anyone know why this might be?

TBH I was expecting to come in above average timespy score with a 5800X3D and 32 Gb of 3600 memory. To come in slightly below expectations (average for 7900 XT is 22240) is a little disappointing.

 

[MadMossy]

Exact release date?

I believe its a China only product, will probably just be called the 7800XT here. No release date announced yet, but benchmarks are starting to appear from China.

AMD's Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gets Benchmarked

AMD's China exclusive Radeon RX 7900 GRE has been put through its paces by Expreview and the US$740 equivalent card should in short not carry the 7900-series moniker. In most of the tests, the card performs like a Raden RX 6950 XT or worse, with it being beaten by the Radeon RX 6800 XT in 3D...

www.techpowerup.com

Basically unless AMD are very very competitive with pricing your better off with the 7900XT.

 

[ICDP]

I posted some benchmarks in the owner thread.

Timespy:
3070 FE - 13349
7900 XT stock - 21846
7900 XT +15 PL -25mV - 22897

But between the 3070 FE and stock 7900 XT I have lost nearly 1000 points on CPU score. From 12084 with the 3070 to 11142 with the 7900 XT. Anyone know why this might be?

TBH I was expecting to come in above average timespy score with a 5800X3D and 32 Gb of 3600 memory. To come in slightly below expectations (average for 7900 XT is 22240) is a little disappointing.

Do you have SAM enabled in the motherboard BIOS?

 

[danlightbulb]

Do you have SAM enabled in the motherboard BIOS?

Yes

 

[ICDP]

Yes

Do you have the AMD metrics overlay enabled, or AMD instant replay (in ReLive settings)? Or any of the iChill or other settings on?