COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Rroff · 9 Aug 2023 at 08:15

I'm a bit on the fence on this one, at least as far as the AZ vaccine.

My gran died a couple of weeks after having the AZ vaccine due to heart failure and unusual blood clotting/thromboembolic event, the coroner wasn't happy and sent her body to a specialised pathology team in Bristol, which came back as natural causes, coroner still wasn't happy but left it up to family as to whether to take it further.

She almost certainly hadn't had COVID, my grandparents spent the 12 months before that almost in isolation sadly and their carers were testing daily.

I found out later the coroner wasn't happy due to seeing a surge of such cases though a connection to the vaccine would be purely speculation but I suspect it is not quite as extremely rare as stated in those news articles.

flea.rider · 9 Aug 2023 at 08:43

https://www.youtube.com/@Campbellteaching have a look make up your own mind ..

Colonel_Klinck · 9 Aug 2023 at 09:03

flea.rider said:
https://www.youtube.com/@Campbellteaching have a look make up your own mind ..

That guy embraced the £ that came with the anti vax crowd. Lets remember he is a retired nurse who's PHD is in digital training for nurses. I actually have a problem with him calling himself Dr when talking about medicine when his PHD isn't in medicine but teaching.

He was quite good early on but the longer it went on and the more he moved towards the anti vax crowd the higher his engagement went and of course the £ comes with that. You only need to read the comments section early on and then a few month after the vaccines came out. He ended up pretty much pushing Ivermectin and even had Russell Brand on his channel :cry:

the wopster · 9 Aug 2023 at 10:02

Colonel_Klinck said:
That guy embraced the £ that came with the anti vax crowd. Lets remember he is a retired nurse who's PHD is in digital training for nurses. I actually have a problem with him calling himself Dr when talking about medicine when his PHD isn't in medicine but teaching.

He was quite good early on but the longer it went on and the more he moved towards the anti vax crowd the higher his engagement went and of course the £ comes with that. You only need to read the comments section early on and then a few month after the vaccines came out. He ended up pretty much pushing Ivermectin and even had Russell Brand on his channel

your right he was a good watch early on, but then went full on fruitloop once he realised that’s where the money was

Ayahuasca · 9 Aug 2023 at 10:03

flea.rider said:
https://www.youtube.com/@Campbellteaching have a look make up your own mind ..

A very effective communicator that tapped into the anti-vax crowd and the dollars that come with it.

Tephnos · 9 Aug 2023 at 20:19

UTmaniac said:
Goalposts for a winter vaccine jab moved, won't be offered as standard to over 50s this year.

Winter Covid vaccines axed for under-65s

Only those aged 65 and over or in at-risk groups should be invited for jab, say UK experts.

www.bbc.co.uk

I still qualify, so good.

Although I likely got XBB already so I guess I'll leave it until early December, so it's good over Christmas.

Tephnos · 9 Aug 2023 at 20:21

Ayahuasca said:
I’ve got some weird positional headache post covid that I’m not sure is related.

If I stand up, bend down or cough, I’ll get a few seconds of pain and pressure in the right side of my head.

I'm still dealing with sinus issues post covid, I think.

The main symptom at this point is a low rumbly tinnitus. I think it's ETD because when I yawn it gets louder, but if I mimic the movement by opening my mouth wide nothing happens, so it must be a reflex of the Eustachian tubes doing it.

Antihistamines don't seem to be getting rid of it, so I might have to demand oral steroids from the doctor.

Chris Wilson · 9 Aug 2023 at 21:36

The thing with Campbell is, right from the start of his YouTube "presentations" I thought, hang on, this rather I'll kempt chap looks either divorced and currently on a shoe string, or he ain't a proper working or retired GP.

I smelt a rat and thought this bloke, for all his kindly, hail fellow well met attitude was hungry for dosh. Seems to have been the case, from recommending vaccination as a supposed professional to slating vaccines to the point he has had to be as guarded with his words on YouTube as I now have to be on here with mine, it's obvious he follows the heady whiff of money more than being a truly say it as it is kind of (plastic) GP. Rather sad.

Tephnos · 12 Aug 2023 at 12:54

Early days, but I noticed last night the low rumbling tinnitus wasn't there (or loud enough to be perceptible over my other, as it's still audible when yawning), so things with my Eustachian tubes are hopefully on the mend.

Tephnos · 12 Aug 2023 at 12:57

Chris Wilson said:
The thing with Campbell is, right from the start of his YouTube "presentations" I thought, hang on, this rather I'll kempt chap looks either divorced and currently on a shoe string, or he ain't a proper working or retired GP.

I smelt a rat and thought this bloke, for all his kindly, hail fellow well met attitude was hungry for dosh. Seems to have been the case, from recommending vaccination as a supposed professional to slating vaccines to the point he has had to be as guarded with his words on YouTube as I now have to be on here with mine, it's obvious he follows the heady whiff of money more than being a truly say it as it is kind of (plastic) GP. Rather sad.

That guy has become a total nutjob and every one of his comments are antivax who can't let it go that everyone else got theirs and moved on.

pastymuncher · 12 Aug 2023 at 14:08

Wifey tested positive last night after feeling ill all day. She's all jabbed up so it's pretty mild which is lucky as she is asthmatic. No symptoms for me yet and with any luck I won't get it but we will see in a few days time. The irony is we are booked in to get our 5th boosters in three weeks.

UTmaniac · 12 Aug 2023 at 14:26

After several days of a headache that paracetamol barely touched, burning up in bed and feeling shattered during the day with the very odd sneeze, I finally decided to do my first test in months yesterday which was negative.

Not terrribly surprised, given last time my throat felt like it was on fire with glass splinters lining it, never getting a cough with previous positives.

Get the impression really sore throat is still a very common symptom.

ethan · 12 Aug 2023 at 23:41

Tested positive three days ago after feeling like I was coming down with the flu approximatrely 5 days ago. The wife was bad before I was and recovered in 3 days?
I had the chills, headaches, fatigue/lethargy for a day and a half with a mild cough/throat issue-but, for the most part it's in my head/face and sinuses with ringing ears. It's day 6 for me now so I hope I'm on the road to recovery. I rang the surgery for some steroids or anti virals to speed up my recovery, but they never rang me back after promising to do so. I am a little concerned because I'm asthmatic, have COPD and a couple of neurological concerns along with a blood clotting disorder etc.

Rroff · 13 Aug 2023 at 00:02

UTmaniac said:
After several days of a headache that paracetamol barely touched, burning up in bed and feeling shattered during the day with the very odd sneeze, I finally decided to do my first test in months yesterday which was negative.

Not terrribly surprised, given last time my throat felt like it was on fire with glass splinters lining it, never getting a cough with previous positives.

Get the impression really sore throat is still a very common symptom.

I never tested positive while I had the headache, then general aches and a bit of fever (fever only last about 1-2 hours though) - but once the sore throat started I was immediately getting strong positives.

Philtor · 13 Aug 2023 at 02:11

Has Covid not mutated to be a virus of no concern now?

It never goes away but mutates into a much weaker (and less deadly) virus?

I never got the vaccine. I did get Covid last xmas however.

Thought I was finished. I struggled to roll over in bed even. Felt like a 90 year old.

No issue with breathing thankfully but was completely floored with no energy. Never experienced anything like it.

Rroff · 13 Aug 2023 at 04:21

There is no hard and fast rule a virus mutates into a less deadly virus, though it can happen, although COVID has mutated into a place where significant changes to how deadly it is require more complex and therefore less likely changes. Omicron and variants are certainly not harmless and do a lot more complex and longer lasting damage to the body than most pre-existing diseases of this type in circulation.

Over time one thing we will likely see is those people more susceptible to COVID filtered out and those more resistant to it making up a higher proportion of the population. IMO that is a significant factor in it seeming less deadly now and why it hasn't had quite the impact initially feared as many of those most vulnerable to it have either died or survived with some immune learning and that there is (or was) a proportion of the population more vulnerable to it than is maybe average.

pallys · 13 Aug 2023 at 07:03

Chris Wilson said:
The thing with Campbell is, right from the start of his YouTube "presentations" I thought, hang on, this rather I'll kempt chap looks either divorced and currently on a shoe string, or he ain't a proper working or retired GP.

I smelt a rat and thought this bloke, for all his kindly, hail fellow well met attitude was hungry for dosh. Seems to have been the case, from recommending vaccination as a supposed professional to slating vaccines to the point he has had to be as guarded with his words on YouTube as I now have to be on here with mine, it's obvious he follows the heady whiff of money more than being a truly say it as it is kind of (plastic) GP. Rather sad.

Isn't his motto follow the data?

Try to watch him through through the lens as someone who is sharing data because that's all he's doing. Then play the ball not the man, I.e. if you a problem then criticise the data he presents, which is not even his btw.

I find him very useful because he provides updates on what the data is saying, e.g. excess deaths and videos of how governments in Oceania are really not happy with the covid drug providers.

Heres an example where if it wasn't for Campbell many people would not know of these challenges by authorities, because our msm or authorities will not even discuss it.

Simple questions for Pfizer

Link the full video from the Australian Government, https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/Watch_Read_Listen/ParlView/video/1585181?utm_source=substack&utm_m...

youtu.be

fastwunz · 13 Aug 2023 at 08:34

pallys said:
Isn't his motto follow the data?

Try to watch him through through the lens as someone who is sharing data because that's all he's doing. Then play the ball not the man, I.e. if you a problem then criticise the data he presents, which is not even his btw.

I find him very useful because he provides updates on what the data is saying, e.g. excess deaths and videos of how governments in Oceania are really not happy with the covid drug providers.

Heres an example where if it wasn't for Campbell many people would not know of these challenges by authorities, because our msm or authorities will not even discuss it.

Simple questions for Pfizer

Link the full video from the Australian Government, https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/Watch_Read_Listen/ParlView/video/1585181?utm_source=substack&utm_m...

youtu.be

I have to agree with this. Having watched many of his videos he quite literally presents data - he shows the source, goes through it and is exceptionally careful with what he says. Frankly some of it is shocking but at all times, it is data, garnered by scientific investigation and evidence from multiple professional bodies around the world who are currently carrying out their own studies into the damage caused by vaccines etc to their respective populations.

I’ve had my jabs by the way but do like to be kept abreast of what’s happening post event.

Rroff · 13 Aug 2023 at 08:40

Philtor said:
No issue with breathing thankfully but was completely floored with no energy. Never experienced anything like it.

The fatigue for me wasn't exactly not having energy but I was having to conserve myself through the day so I didn't expend it - kind of hard to describe. The first day back to work I couldn't find the mental energy to drive so got a lift but was OK from the second day.

Then there was the moments of just hitting a wall as my blood oxygen levels dipped but haven't had that in awhile now - took a full 3 months to clear though. Was a full 6 months before I really felt deep down like I had the "vitality", for want of a better way to put it, I had before COVID.

My digestive system is still not as robust as before COVID, it was always a slight weakness for me, not sure how long if it will fully recover to before COVID.

pallys · 13 Aug 2023 at 09:47

It'd be interesting to see whether there is a link between those who had the mrna vaccine and the development of an auto-immune condition.