Tbf I think Southgate binned him long before these accusations were made. There was the incident in lockdown with the England squad where he and Foden brought some local tarts back to the team hotel and I'm pretty sure he never featured for England again. Reading between the lines and then some of the reports that have come out over the past year or so, I think it's been known that he's trouble (albeit nothing this serious) for quite sometime. I can remember Ole making comments about his performances depending on whether he's had an early night or not (or words to that effect) and how he spoke with Southgate and they decided it was best for him to just stay behind in Manchester and focus on playing for Utd rather than join the England squad. I think they were just trying to manage him and hoping he'll grow up.
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Firstly, I'm not saying that he committed domestic abuse or anything else - clearly nobody (aside from him and her) knows the facts. And that is the difficulty here - he's not been found guilty, but nor has he been found not guilty on a particular strong basis. So either he's incredibly lucky not to be in prison right now, or he's incredibly unlucky to have lost his job and to be a pariah.
However, her returning to him makes absolutely no difference to the situation.
Supporting Someone Who Keeps Returning to an Abusive Relationship
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Survivors of domestic abuse return to their partners an average of 7 times before leaving.
So have they terminated his contract or will it be a case of a loan or putting him up for sale?Richard Arnold has released an open letter to the fans:
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Our CEO has written to United supporters regarding the decision on Mason Greenwood.www.manutd.com
- The alleged victim requested the police to drop their investigation in April 2022.
- We were provided with alternative explanations for the audio recording, which was a short excerpt from a much longer recording, and for the images posted online.
- The alleged victim's family participated in the process and were given the opportunity to review and correct our factual findings.
So they were definitely going to try and explain away the audio recording, weren't they...
They go hand in hand. Backlash from fans and charities would have put pressure on sponsors to distance themselves from the club. As the Athletic report showed, this was a calculated decision by Utd. I said weeks ago that it was all building to Utd bringing him back - they were drip feeding news, hoping/expecting that people will just get bored or run out of rage by the time his return was announced but somebody at the club had other plans and leaked the plans to the Athletic and it just made things worse.
This is exactly the double standard I'm talking about. Such a predictable copout response. More than likely she missed the easy life and the money and decided to take him back.
So your suggestion is that he might be an abuser, but she's decided to take him back anyway? You've basically admitted yourself, therefore, that her actions do not in any useful way indicate whether or not he has done something terrible, and therefore her taking him back has no bearing on this whatsoever.
How is it a 'copout response'?
You challenge it as if i've said something stupid and then follow it up with a prime example of one of many reasons why you can't attach any weight to such things. Make your mind up.
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After all the stuff I’ve heard/read on the athletic it’s defo the sponsors as they may withdraw. Money talks.
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Not sure it's sponsors considering the leaks said that sponsors had already been consulted and made aware of the plans. Of course they might have changed their minds after the public outcry.
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Sponsors are no better or worse than the club. They didn't have any moral objection to Greenwood staying but the club would have known that if the heat got turned up on them then they'd be pressuring the club to bin him too. I'd imagine there were more talks between Utd's key sponsors and the club over the past week following the Athletic report and these sponsors wouldn't have been overly happy about receiving constant requests to comment from various media outlets.
The same people that would lambast United for taking him back are the same people that would treat her as some sort of ongoing victim of coercion for taking him back.
She wants his money and his following. So I'm holding her to the same standard that you lot are bestowing upon the club.
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Simon Stone: "Mason Greenwood remains on full pay. All options remain open re future but he is not coming back to train at Man Utd and no expectation of him playing for club again post loan/sale."
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Does she? How can you possibly know that?
She released the recording and photos. Therefore if she did solely want the former she’d surely just keep her mouth shut and live the “easy” life.
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I feel like your moral compass needs a serious readjustment
As suspected then...
I'm no football fan. Only here after reading about this.
Saw some shocking comments on Facebook from guys basically saying same as someone in here "if his partner took him back it's fine"
And others "he shouldn't be judged what he does off the pitch"
I mean this is just disgusting really. Can't believe these sports clubs want so badly to keep these characters and try to find away to get around the public backlash.
Its awful really.
What are kids going to think if their beloved sports team basically okays this behaviour? Absolutely terrible it wasn't a slam dunk "get out"
Saw some shocking comments on Facebook from guys basically saying same as someone in here "if his partner took him back it's fine"
And others "he shouldn't be judged what he does off the pitch"
I mean this is just disgusting really. Can't believe these sports clubs want so badly to keep these characters and try to find away to get around the public backlash.
Its awful really.
What are kids going to think if their beloved sports team basically okays this behaviour? Absolutely terrible it wasn't a slam dunk "get out"
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Because it's an entirely possible scenario and indeed one that has played out many many times before in domestic abuse cases.
This is one possible reason but by absolutely no means would it be the only possible reason.
No, I just say it as I see it. Whereas you're a hypocrit. If we had a 22 year old Messi in our ranks that was cleared by the courts and taken back by his girlfriend, you'd be begging for him to stay, secretly or otherwise.
Cleared by courts is wrong of me to state actually, but the charges were dropped.
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