Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Guys don't waste your time arguing with the troll. Just put him on ignore for your own sanity.

I don't think he's a troll tbh. I think he's gone so far down the CT rabbit hole that he's emerged from the other side think he's got some "third eye" or whatever it's called nowadays and that he sees the world from a more elevated plane of existence.


This third eye is also the only one he can see out of, one of his normal eyes has Musk's finger in it, and the other one Putin's.


it doesn't mean there couldn't be one.

World War 3 is folklore, it'll never happen. All the countries that matter, no matter how insane they are (looking at you NK) all know that if they press the big red button, they'll be wiped off the face of the earth before their missile could even hit anything. If (and it's a big if) WW3 happens, it'll be like the cold war all over again, or fought on a digital battlefield. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction, I'm sure they have an article somewhere on whatever ridiculous media you get your information from.
 
World War 3 is folklore, it'll never happen. All the countries that matter, no matter how insane they are (looking at you NK) all know that if they press the big red button, they'll be wiped off the face of the earth before their missile could even hit anything. If (and it's a big if) WW3 happens, it'll be like the cold war all over again, or fought on a digital battlefield. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction, I'm sure they have an article somewhere on whatever ridiculous media you get your information from.

Only takes one miscalculation, two parties with unreconcilable differences or someone coming to power who is actually crazy in a country with nuclear weapons - the likes of Putin and Kim aren't likely to do anything which puts their arse on the line but should they be deposed by a true believer or extremist nutjob all bets are off.
 
Putin is showing restraint? Did you just type that, after Putin has devastated and destroyed vast areas of Ukraine, and deliberately targeted the civilian population? That's "restraint"?

Deliberately target civilians, is there actually a source for that? How are you coming to this conclusions? Civilians die in war, Britain and the US have both killed countless civilians in the past 20 years, why do you think Putin has done it deliberately?

Russia have shown restraint in terms of not escalating the conflict with NATO, they haven't used battlefield tactical nuclear weapons, in that sense they've shown restraint. Both sides (NATO and Russia) haven't fired on each other.
 
Only takes one miscalculation, two parties with unreconcilable differences or someone coming to power who is actually crazy in a country with nuclear weapons - the likes of Putin and Kim aren't likely to do anything which puts their arse on the line but should they be deposed by a true believer or extremist nutjob all bets are off.
All it takes is one fanatical, religious lunatic who has decided the world needs a reset to get in to power. Sad reality is that’s as likely to happen in somewhere like America as some of the less ‘stable’ nuclear powers. Though I don’t believe a US president can single handedly launch their nukes.
 
Deliberately target civilians, is there actually a source for that? How are you coming to this conclusions? Civilians die in war, Britain and the US have both killed countless civilians in the past 20 years, why do you think Putin has done it deliberately?

Russia have shown restraint in terms of not escalating the conflict with NATO, they haven't used battlefield tactical nuclear weapons, in that sense they've shown restraint. Both sides (NATO and Russia) haven't fired on each other.
Exported grain has no real military value, so why is Russia targeting Ukraine's grain silos?

Civilians in Africa where this grain is typically headed for are being targeted.
 
Deliberately target civilians, is there actually a source for that? How are you coming to this conclusions? Civilians die in war, Britain and the US have both killed countless civilians in the past 20 years, why do you think Putin has done it deliberately?

Russia have shown restraint in terms of not escalating the conflict with NATO, they haven't used battlefield tactical nuclear weapons, in that sense they've shown restraint. Both sides (NATO and Russia) haven't fired on each other.

You haven’t been keeping up with current affairs. Yes, Putin deliberately targets civilians. Often with a follow up strikes 15 mins later to catch people searching for loved ones, the emergency services etc.

I have an image seared into my mind of a pink mobile phone with hole punched through it, from a cluster bomb attack on a railway station filled with women and children trying to flee after the Russians held its BS referendum.

If a Russian nuke flys, Russia will be sent back to the Stone Age within a morning.
 
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Exported grain has no real military value, so why is Russia targeting Ukraine's grain silos?

Civilians in Africa where this grain is typically headed for are being targeted.

I would guess they'd want to limit their adversaries ability to earn money from exports unless they get something in return. The Royal Navy practically invented the blockade.
 
I would guess they'd want to limit their adversaries ability to earn money from exports unless they get something in return. The Royal Navy practically invented the blockade.
It’s’s because of the high concentration of civilians.
 
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You've been actively posting in this thread for a year and a half. That you don't already know the answer to this question makes any pretence that you should be taken seriously laughable.
As well as razing entire housing blocks with sustained artillery bombardment (it was an accident!) they also have form for firing on civilians and civilian vehicles in the areas they control. As well as lining civilians up against walls and executing them...

It's truly amazing that anybody could deny this. You basically have to deny reality and substitute your own.
 
You haven’t been keeping with current affairs. Yes, Putin deliberately targets civilians. Often with a follow up strikes 15 mins later to catch people searching for loved ones, the emergency services etc.

I have an image seared into my mind of a pink mobile phone with hole punched through it, from a cluster bomb attack on a railway station filled with women and children trying to flee after the Russians held its BS referendum.

If a Russian nuke flys, Russia will be sent back to the Stone Age within a morning.

I can find a single news story relating to a "double tap" from April, you're saying "often", but there isn't actually countless examples. I don't think there's any evidence Russia has deliberately targeted civilians. I don't doubt thousands of civilians have died, Russia is responsible for that since they have chosen to engage in a deliberate illegal invasion. What I do doubt is that anyone in the Russian government has given orders to deliberately target civilians, because outside of the West they actually don't want to look like the bad guys to people like China and countries in Africa and Asia who aren't close allies of the West. They want to push their narrative of this being a defensive war.
 
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You've been actively posting in this thread for a year and a half. That you don't already know the answer to this question makes any pretence that you should be taken seriously laughable.

I mean it's so obvious yet the civilian death count for Ukraine is many more times lower than our invasion of Iraq according to the UN, despite Russia deliberately targeting civilians?
 
I can find a single news story relating to a "double tap" from April, you're saying "often", but there isn't actually countless examples. I don't think there's any evidence Russia has deliberately targeted civilians. I don't doubt thousands of civilians have died, Russia is responsible for that since they have chosen to engage in a deliberate illegal invasion. What I do doubt is that anyone in the Russian government has given orders to deliberately target civilians, because outside of the West they actually don't want to look like the bad guys to people like China and countries in Africa and Asia who aren't close allies of the West. They want to push their narrative of this being a defensive war.
There would be 100% less civilian casualties if Russia hadn't started a war of aggression and conquest, too. But let's ignore that. In Putin (you) trust.
 
I can find a single news story relating to a "double tap" from April, you're saying "often", but there isn't actually countless examples. I don't think there's any evidence Russia has deliberately targeted civilians. I don't doubt thousands of civilians have died, Russia is responsible for that since they have chosen to engage in a deliberate illegal invasion. What I do doubt is that anyone in the Russian government has given orders to deliberately target civilians, because outside of the West they actually don't want to look like the bad guys to people like China and countries in Africa and Asia who aren't close allies of the West. They want to push their narrative of this being a defensive war.

You cant keep striking apartments and say this is not deliberately targeting civilians its constant now it not mistakes.

Satellite images of the theatre taken on 14 March show the word children (Russian: дети) spelled out in two locations on the square outside the theatre. The message was an attempt to identify the building to attacking forces as a civilian air raid shelter containing children, and not a military target.[12]


Let me remind you
 
I can find a single news story relating to a "double tap" from April, you're saying "often", but there isn't actually countless examples. I don't think there's any evidence Russia has deliberately targeted civilians. I don't doubt thousands of civilians have died, Russia is responsible for that since they have chosen to engage in a deliberate illegal invasion. What I do doubt is that anyone in the Russian government has given orders to deliberately target civilians, because outside of the West they actually don't want to look like the bad guys to people like China and countries in Africa and Asia who aren't close allies of the West. They want to push their narrative of this being a defensive war.

Well it’s all been very well documented and cases are being prepared. I’ll be following trials closely.

The last double tap was on Odessa, after the grain deal ended, just as the firemen and rescuers arrived another salvo of rockets hit, but it’s a standard Russian operating procedure although the Ukrainians are shooting down 95% of what Russia launch.
 


I have an image seared into my mind of a pink mobile phone with hole punched through it, from a cluster bomb attack on a railway station filled with women and children trying to flee after the Russians held its BS referendum.
For me it was that mortar attack that wiped out a fleeing family as they were trying to evacuate.
Russians had drones over them, they knew what they were shooting at.

I mean it's so obvious yet the civilian death count for Ukraine is many more times lower than our invasion of Iraq according to the UN, despite Russia deliberately targeting civilians?
Don’t know wether to lol or just block you at this stage. Maybe both.
 
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