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Russians still prioritising the Bakmhut front, 55k troops, 250 tanks and over 1000 armoured vehicles. I wonder when push comes to shove if they will surrender Bakmhut to save the south or try to save face and keep Bakmhut the one symbol of success at all costs.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Russians still prioritising the Bakmhut front, 55k troops, 250 tanks and over 1000 armoured vehicles. I wonder when push comes to shove if they will surrender Bakmhut to save the south or try to save face and keep Bakmhut the one symbol of success at all costs.
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They've been pushing a lot of men and equipment just north of Bakhmut I think they'd rather save face and maybe hope Ukraine has to consider reinforcing there at the expense of their offensive.
 
Freddie1980 said:
That's really embarrassing if true for the UK. We have 2 aircraft carriers which even when working we can only operate one at time including aircraft (maximum 36 each).
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This is actually normal and why we have two: one will be on active service and the other will be in training / refit / whatever.
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
Anna Applebaum isn't writing clickbait article and the story comes from Musk's biographer.
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The Guardian article you linked was a clickbait opinion piece, loosely based on the biography but with made up stuff thrown in to push the writers anti-Musk narrative. I.E:

Although neither Musk nor his biographer can get the story straight, it is true that the multibillionaire CEO of X (the platform formerly known as Twitter) refused to extend the coverage of his Starlink satellite communications for the Ukrainian armed forces last autumn.

Musk did so because Russians (sometimes he says Putin) told him that a Ukrainian attack on part of Ukraine’s own territory (the Crimean peninsula, occupied by Russia) would lead to a Russian nuclear response. This was a lie.
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That's just outright false information that's already been debunked, the writer is taking multiple stories and trying to smash them together to create a false story. The reason the Starlink coverage over Crimea was off was because the US government sanctions required it to be, Ukraine contacted Musk to request it be turned on but he couldn't do it without US government's say so and they never contacted the US government. He's said outright that if the US government had asked him to turn it on he would have.


Bug One said:
It's symbolic for Russians, despite being nothing but a worthless pile of rubble now.
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Indeed Bakhmut is probably the single most important city (or former city :mad:) to the Russians due to the symbolism. The former city of Artemivsk was the only city captured by the "pro-Russian separatists" in 2014 and after it was liberated by Ukrainian forces it was renamed Bakhmut as part of the de-Russification efforts. The entire city acts as a gigantic middle finger to Russia/Putin and so they're obsessed with possessing it.


Freddie1980 said:
That's really embarrassing if true for the UK. We have 2 aircraft carriers which even when working we can only operate one at time including aircraft (maximum 36 each).
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It's even more embarrassing when you factor in that the C3 is essentially a German upgrade program for the C2, BAE only have involvement in it so we can save face about not being able to build tanks anymore :(

It's a joke how far the Royal Navy has fallen like you say, two budget carriers operating budget aircraft and not even enough to field both at once /sigh.
 
Minusorange said:
She's wrong because she isn't factoring in Storm Shadow & Himars to destroy anywhere Russia wants to stockpile all those rockets near the front lines
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Sadly it isn't that simple, and while Russia seems slow to or seems to never learn some lessons they likely will somewhat learn to mitigate that. What Ukraine really needs is to be able to overcome with sophistication - being able to locate/track and destroy the launch vehicles from greater range and/or able to more easily use shoot and scoot tactics with higher precision and mobility.
 
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Rroff said:
They've been pushing a lot of men and equipment just north of Bakhmut I think they'd rather save face and maybe hope Ukraine has to consider reinforcing there at the expense of their offensive.
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Might need a recalculation on those numbers after what's just happened in Andriivka. The 72nd brigade was around 10k men but it's been effectively wiped out, not sure how many were captured yet but all the command is gone.

What happens next though should give a good signal as to where the Kremlin thinks it's priorities lay. There's a big gap in the south now between Andriivka and Kalshivka that needs filling, I suspect they will pull troops from the north but that won't be popular as they need a win from somewhere and taking back Layman would be big win for them at this point.
 
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