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rypt said:
Wasn't the M25 built based on future projected needs, not the demand there and then?

I would expect all core infrastructure to be kept at future demand needs, not current demand levels
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Future projected need is fundamentally a different thing to building things to cater for sporadic demand spikes, you're talking about something different now.

Whilst the M25 was built to cater for future demand, it wasn't built with 10 lanes each way to just to stop it getting too busy during the Christmas rush once a year.

Tesla might build 10 chargers where they think they only need 6 but when half the owners all turn up at once at Thanksgiving, they might then need 20 of them... for a day. It'd be stupid to build 20 though, only to sit watching them never get used.

Remember we're also talking about a developing technology here - if you go too mad installing today's tech that never gets used, that's all money that can't be invested in tomorrow's technology until it's recovered.
 
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Kenai said:
Whilst the M25 was built to cater for future demand, it wasn't built with 10 lanes each way to just to stop it getting too busy during the Christmas rush once a year.
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I was actually waiting for you to point out that I got my facts wrong - upon some further reading, M25 was conceived in the 50s based on future demand needs but by the time it was built (some 10+ years later), it couldn't accommodate the needs of the time.
 
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I used a trickle charger the Honda Insight. There's quite a big difference between a trickle charge, and a granny charge. Probably as much as between a granny charge and an ultra fast charger.
 
rypt said:
I was actually waiting for you to point out that I got my facts wrong - upon some further reading, M25 was conceived in the 50s based on future demand needs but by the time it was built (some 10+ years later), it couldn't accommodate the needs of the time.
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Whether the specific facts regarding the M25 were right or wrong, the more important distinction was that you were addressing building for future demand, a fundamentally different thing to building to accommodate infrequent demand spikes.
 
Bug One said:
I used a trickle charger the Honda Insight. There's quite a big difference between a trickle charge, and a granny charge. Probably as much as between a granny charge and an ultra fast charger.
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5A at what 14v. So a massive 70W :)
 
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My new computer on wheels turns up Friday

I plan to:

Check for damage
Connect my phone
Install new dashcam (powered from the mirror)
Then learn the new UI and setup everything in the car to my liking.

Might eventually go for a drive in it as well. :cry:
 
For those with an EV via a salary sacrifice scheme, what was it that made you ditch whatever you had before to go for an EV via this route?

We've recently changed our EV scheme through work to a better one and the net figures are now a lot more tempting.
 
ahenners said:
For those with an EV via a salary sacrifice scheme, what was it that made you ditch whatever you had before to go for an EV via this route?

We've recently changed our EV scheme through work to a better one and the net figures are now a lot more tempting.
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1. Car was dirt cheap (zero deposit, £330/mo including tax, tyres, insurance for a brand new driver)
2. I had capital tied up in a car that was fully paid off. Selling the car meant I could buy a boiler outright :D
3. EVs are dirt cheap to run if you have a time of use tariff
4. I HATE cold starting petrol engines and not getting them up to temperature. The school run would barely get the engine warm and it'd be off again.
5. Most EVs have cabin pre-heating, something which only hybrids or JLR cars offer.
6. For 99% of driving it is fine (range wise), and the 1% is irrelevant
7. I did salary sacrifice and get my wife to pay me cash :D:D:D:D

VincentHanna said:
I read somewhere that salary sacrifice can really impact your mortgage affordability.
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It can do but only sensibly - i.e. you are 200 or 300 quid down. Your income is still genuinely whatever it is. No different to a lease car or w/e.

Kill_Phil said:
Yup and pension! I don't believe the impact is too bad short term but definitely not something you'd want to be doing long term.

@ahenners may be best getting some proper financial advice
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It is quite easy to calculate pension impact for most folks. It is NHS/defined benefit folk who need to be REALLY careful. You can lose tens, if not hundreds of £k.
 
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I just bought it as extra as the cost of the monthly is less than the commute fuel of my ICE

Like any commitment with will
Impact affordability on mortgages. Much like £120 a month on sky or a £60 mobile phone contract
 
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It depends on how your company calculate benefits. It doesn't necessarily impact pensions, bonuses, income protection, life assurance etc.

That said I just paid cash for my car as my company lacks a good scheme.
 
FerretBoy said:
It depends on how your company calculate benefits. It doesn't necessarily impact pensions, bonuses, income protection, life assurance etc.

That said I just paid cash for my car as my company lacks a good scheme.
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Aye but in almost every instance it will affect pension.
 
Simon said:
Depends. Doesn’t impact mine
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Nor mine..

There are some considerations, but I worked with the CFO to make sure when setting up the scheme it had next to no impact.

ahenners said:
For those with an EV via a salary sacrifice scheme, what was it that made you ditch whatever you had before to go for an EV via this route?

We've recently changed our EV scheme through work to a better one and the net figures are now a lot more tempting.
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As others say, you can get a nice enough car for a good net price.

My Tesla Model Y Long Range was £415, no deposit, fully insured / maintained (Inc Tyres) with some early termination insurance... luckily they were on 'sale' just before Christmas and took advantage..
 
Thanks all for your input. Would need to double check pension, that is also salary sacrifice and a % contribution so would need to make sure it's not calculated after any EV SS deduction. Life assurance is based on full salary pre-deduction

From a quick look this afternoon most standard stuff (ID3, Q4 e-tron, ioniq 5) is coming in around £400 net fully maintained and insured at 36k/3yr. It had me thinking do the maths make sense, and did others take the plunge solely based on maths. I've never leased a car, always generally owned outright or bought with bank loans.

Anyone doing business mileage with a car from one of these schemes? Currently get personal rate at 45p/mile would this still be classed as personal, or does it fall under company car rates?
 
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ahenners said:
Anyone doing business mileage with a car from one of these schemes? Currently get personal rate at 45p/mile would this still be classed as personal, or does it fall under company car rates?
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Really oddly, our firm drops to 0p/mile for EVs.
 
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