Executed by nitrogen gas

That is religious.

Do you think you can murder someone and continue living? I would feel shame.

I'm not advocating a rule for others that I wouldn't want on myself. If I deliberately murdered someone then execute me.

It's not Christian. The US government is supposed to be secular, although we all know it isn't. Christ would not advocate murder of anyone. In fact, he'd advocate forgiveness. So I don't get this part of their attitude.
 
It's not Christian. The US government is supposed to be secular, although we all know it isn't. Christ would not advocate murder of anyone. In fact, he'd advocate forgiveness. So I don't get this part of their attitude.

Exactly. Having met a few Christians who have had loved ones killed (by accident admittedly) by a drunk driver, they found strength in their religion to forgive - that takes more strength than punishment. The sadness doesn't go away, but it's better than carrying bitterness and resentment.
 
What happened to Thou Shalt Not Kill? Seems pretty unambiguous to me.

There is a religious case in all Abrahamic religions, as long as it isn't in retribution.

what if wasn't deliberate? what if was an accident? or what if it wasn't you killed them at all?

I'm only advocating capital punishment were the case is obvious, like in this case.

Let us remember the real victim in this. This beast executed Elizabeth Sennett, a 45 year old woman, wife and mother, in cold blood for $1000.
 
Jesus literally (as literal as a book can be, anyway) told his followers to turn the other cheek. At no point is killing for revenge permitted in the bible, AFAIK.

As @Freefaller has rightly pointed out forgiveness is what the bible teaches. It's easy to walk around feeling hatred and anger but being able to forgive (not forget) is what is expected of Christians.

I'll likely always be against state-sponsored murder. It doesn't sit right with me that we have the ability to take someone else's life legally as that's not a decision for us to make. We certainly can't make that decision based on grounds of morality. Even if it meant a life-time of hard labour, at least they're giving back to society. What benefit do they give or what lesson do they learn when dead? God forbid they get found out to be innocent after the fact.
 
Its a clear cut case.... Don't do bad **** , hanging worked for a long time. Maybe people in Alabama have a gurney kink.

Or make a running man style TV show, zero sympathy for a clear cut case, should be done next day tbh instead of this lawyers making appeal after appeal. Bad people do bad things and the world is not short of people good or bad.

How did it work? Did people stop doing murders?
 
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I know each state have their own laws, but I believe firing squads and hangings are still options - both more humane than this.

I still feel a guillotine beheading to be one of the cheapest and cleanest kills that could be administered (not clean in terms of the clean-up though!)
 
Just because the people being executed may have been convicted of being monsters doesn't mean the rest of us want people to go out in an inhumane way.

We're supposed to be better than that, aren't we?

There there Mr Rapist it's ok, just a short ***** whilst we pop this needle in. Would you like me to flannel your face to calm you down? Poor thing.
 
There there Mr Rapist it's ok, just a short ***** whilst we pop this needle in. Would you like me to flannel your face to calm you down? Poor thing.

So you're OK with causing unnecessary suffering? Cool. I'll take it from your snide response you believe acting as bad as the people you wish to condemn is the right move. Righto.
 
"What we do know about nitrogen gas is that in an early study with healthy volunteers, almost all of them at about 15 into 20 seconds of breathing had a generalised seizure," he said.
Holy bird poop.

People are so desperate for cash they are volunteering to inhale this? surely any damage to the lungs is permanent and your left with basically "long covid"
who volunteers for that.

I bet water boarding is less dangerous and more fun
I know each state have their own laws, but I believe firing squads and hangings are still options - both more humane than this.
I'll take an actual "off with his head" or good old witch trial over this.

Makes me wonder if it's an execution or scientific research
 
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This is the internet - it's cool to be edgy and have strong non-compassionate opinions. :)

it must be tiring constantly trying to appear that way. I'd understand these edgy remarks if it was the victims family in a moment of distress but from people who, fortunately, aren't going through those events? It's just childish.

If we want to hold the position of being morally superior to these death row inmates, we can't then do the things they would do to others.

That's just my view anyway. Many, many ago I used to agree with CP but as I've gotten older I've realised I really can't agree with it as it doesn't align with my views.
 
So you're OK with causing unnecessary suffering? Cool. I'll take it from your snide response you believe acting as bad as the people you wish to condemn is the right move. Righto.
I'm saying make it quick, efficient and as easy as possible for the person administering it, but don't go out of our ways to make it comfortable in that they will shortly be dead anyway. They've spent potentially decades on death row, and we suddenly care about their last few minutes being painless. I just can't comprehend that mindset. What a waste of time and effort caring about that.

This is the internet - it's cool to be edgy and have strong non-compassionate opinions. :)

Edgy when they don't conform to your opinions.


I'm not saying we should lower people into an acid bath ffs.
 
it must be tiring constantly trying to appear that way. I'd understand these edgy remarks if it was the victims family in a moment of distress but from people who, fortunately, aren't going through those events? It's just childish.

If we want to hold the position of being morally superior to these death row inmates, we can't then do the things they would do to others.

That's just my view anyway. Many, many ago I used to agree with CP but as I've gotten older I've realised I really can't agree with it as it doesn't align with my views.

So again, an opinion that doesn't match yours is childish. OK then.
 
I'm saying make it quick, efficient and as easy as possible for the person administering it, but don't go out of our ways to make it comfortable in that they will shortly be dead anyway. They've spent potentially decades on death row, and we suddenly care about their last few minutes being painless. I just can't comprehend that mindset. What a waste of time and effort caring about that.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there, but 25 minutes of pain is not OK.
 
Geez, you're right, it's so obvious. You should probably let them know because I think they're ****ing around with nitrogen for no reason, they can just go down to Walmart and buy some Propofol.

Still quite surprised for a country they blindly puts up with gun crime.. they don’t cut their losses and run an NRA execution quad.

I’m on the fence - I can see the capital punishment aspect and that life in a bad prison is worse than no life. It comes down to rights - if you kill do you forfeit the right to life? If so is that immediate or only over a threshold?
As someone accused, then convicted and sentenced - what if you are innocent?
The capital punishment is often rooted in religion, from the days of an eye-for-an-eye but kept everyone in check by threatening eternal torture so only those the religious justice deemed guilty were fair game (irrespective of guilt). Innocent were left to a supreme court.. completely removing responsibility and accountability.

Comes down to - should religion be confused with country law?

Law find you guilty.. the why don’t we hold the legal officers accountable for killing an innocent person, and all facts would need to remove all accountability from the legal executing team..

In short the law prevents one person killing another, even in revenge, and the law also removes the right to kill from the legal process - it is the law court that passes sentence.

Law or religious law?

Thinking more I see, if the individual has no right to kill another then they don’t have the right to demand or expect the death penalty.
Now that doesn’t stop your legal system going - mate you killed and were sentenced 10 times.. and we don have to take this **** from you..
The question then becomes the state owns the lives of the voters? The court jury doesn’t recommend sentence - just the state of guilt.
 
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I'm saying make it quick, efficient and as easy as possible for the person administering it, but don't go out of our ways to make it comfortable in that they will shortly be dead anyway. They've spent potentially decades on death row, and we suddenly care about their last few minutes being painless. I just can't comprehend that mindset. What a waste of time and effort caring about that.



Edgy when they don't conform to your opinions.


I'm not saying we should lower people into an acid bath ffs.
no one needs to conform to my opinions - people are free to believe what they want. I just find the bloodthirstiness and lack of compassion / humanity / forgiveness pretty sad to be honest. We have a long way to go before becoming a better race it seems.

Again, if you;'re in a life or death situation, then that's different. This is pre-meditated death which takes decades to get to - I find that pretty gross as a concept. Of course the crime committed is equally or if not far more heinous, but celebrating the death of someone who may or may not regret their actions I find oddly tribal and not fitting with a so called progressive and modern society.
 
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So again, an opinion that doesn't match yours is childish. OK then.

No. Being edgy is childish. Agreeing with capital punishment is not an edgy stance. That's just a difference of opinion, which I accept.

Some of the posts in this thread making light of execution and ******* around with silly ways of doing it, that's being edgy.
 
It's not a lack of compassion I don't think, or "bloodthirsty". It's a lack of caring at that point. All the things in the world to worry about, and we place the last few minutes of someone on death row as valid to ticking whatever boxes are deemed to be at the correct level of being humane in terms of dying. That's sad to me. I'm saying I don't and won't ever care about that. They will be dead shortly anyway like I say. Move on.
 
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