Car theft - is it out of control?

Scougar said:
Professionals? They are criminals.

Get a grip... just because there are a few people doing bat **** crazy things doesn't mean I won't secure my property. Grow some balls.

Obviously a car isn't worth your life, but to suggest you should take measures to secure your property is bonkers.

"CCTV to massive high gated/fenced houses in the nicest of areas" <<-- I am gonna suggest this to you... the fact they have 'massive high gated fenced houses, probably means they weren't in 'the nicest areas'.

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p.s. When I was in Birmingham, we had gang members with guns threaten us and break into our house looking for one of the guys that lived with us. We also watched someone get hammered to nearly death in the street from the drug dealer across the street. I guess I've differently than you in my experiences.
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Careful guys we got a hard man over here :cry:
 
Vita said:
I’ve found that having anything expensive is pointless in England/UK. Unless you can miraculously garage it, or use it very rarely.

Either it gets damaged (key’d, etc etc), or stolen.

You then think, is it worth it?
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I was about to say, not worth having a valuable car.

With lack of respect in car parks, door dinging etc, pot holes in the roads, let alone theft.

11 year old Volvo here.

My motorcycle is 21 years old.
 
dlockers said:
Careful guys we got a hard man over here :cry:
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Well he's 'over there' and probably has a gun. Of course the crims will have bigger guns...

It's like with the expensive watch thefts, the scum will go in with maximum violence for shock value. they don't ask nicely, and most people aren't prepared to be hit with a hammer when they're walking along with a latte in their hand.
 
Let's face it - if someone breaks into your house and demands keys/code/whatever with menaces at 3am, you are likely to be in almost no position to defend yourself with any sort of effectiveness.

It isn't going to be like in a film where the wife wakes up and whispers "Darling, I hear something!", giving the husband time to slip on a robe and look for a suitable weapon to take on the intruders; they are going to be in your house, up the stairs and in your face in probably under 10 seconds from you hearing an initial disturbance (assuming you even hear one)
They are going to be wide awake, prepared, almost certainly experienced, and almost certainly outnumbering you. Even if there are only 2 of them, you are already at an enormous disadvantage and likely to be quickly overwhelmed unless you are John Wick or something.
 
Uther said:
Well he's 'over there' and probably has a gun. Of course the crims will have bigger guns...

It's like with the expensive watch thefts, the scum will go in with maximum violence for shock value. they don't ask nicely, and most people aren't prepared to be hit with a hammer when they're walking along with a latte in their hand.
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Yep, that was exactly my point above mate, when I mentioned posh areas with low crime not expecting, so using even mild violence = major shock/payoff.
Lopéz said:
Let's face it - if someone breaks into your house and demands keys/code/whatever with menaces at 3am, you are likely to be in almost no position to defend yourself with any sort of effectiveness.

It isn't going to be like in a film where the wife wakes up and whispers "Darling, I hear something!", giving the husband time to slip on a robe and look for a suitable weapon to take on the intruders; they are going to be in your house, up the stairs and in your face in probably under 10 seconds from you hearing an initial disturbance (assuming you even hear one)
They are going to be wide awake, prepared, almost certainly experienced, and almost certainly outnumbering you. Even if there are only 2 of them, you are already at an enormous disadvantage and likely to be quickly overwhelmed unless you are John Wick or something.
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Exactly!
 
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I seem to recall from previous threads on here, there's quite a few have a go heroes on this forum, willing to put their lives on the line to stop a gang of criminals helping themselves to their VW Golf. Absolute madness if you ask me, if they want it, they're taking it - why make the process of taking it involve busting into your house and confronting you and your family? You could be the hardest man in the UK, if several people bust through your door at 2am whilst you were fast asleep, you're doing absolutely jack **** about it.

This difference in mentality goes a long way back though, before signal repeaters and ghost immobilisers it was leave your key downstairs versus sleep with it under your pillow.
 
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Kenai said:
I seem to recall from previous threads on here, there's quite a few have a go heroes on this forum, willing to put their lives on the line to stop a gang of criminals helping themselves to their VW Golf. Absolute madness if you ask me, if they want it, they're taking it - why make the process of taking it involve busting into your house and confronting you and your family?

This difference in mentality goes a long way back though, before signal repeaters and ghost immobilisers it was leave your key downstairs versus sleep with it under your pillow.
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For once we agree on something haha!

Yep, one of the most stolen is a Golf R/RS3, and then exported for mad money. Also very easy to steal.
 
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Lopéz said:
Let's face it - if someone breaks into your house and demands keys/code/whatever with menaces at 3am, you are likely to be in almost no position to defend yourself with any sort of effectiveness.

It isn't going to be like in a film where the wife wakes up and whispers "Darling, I hear something!", giving the husband time to slip on a robe and look for a suitable weapon to take on the intruders; they are going to be in your house, up the stairs and in your face in probably under 10 seconds from you hearing an initial disturbance (assuming you even hear one)
They are going to be wide awake, prepared, almost certainly experienced, and almost certainly outnumbering you. Even if there are only 2 of them, you are already at an enormous disadvantage and likely to be quickly overwhelmed unless you are John Wick or something.
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That’s why I have proximity alerts all around the property that will also make a lot of noise if triggered, cctv covering every angle inside and out plus all lights internal and external that will also be switched on along with an internal alarm system. At least this way it makes it less likely to be taken by surprise and more likely they’ll stop before entry. Ultimately, if they step foot inside the house it’s game on. If all they want is the car I don’t care. I doubt they even need to step inside the house to steal that anyway.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
That’s why I have proximity alerts all around the property that will also make a lot of noise if triggered, cctv covering every angle inside and out plus all lights internal and external that will also be switched on along with an internal alarm system. At least this way it makes it less likely to be taken by surprise and more likely they’ll stop before entry. Ultimately, if they step foot inside the house it’s game on. If all they want is the car I don’t care.
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Then you end up getting done for defending your home/family/assault/gbh etc etc, thanks to our wonderful law system, because remember it's a seperate crime apparently defending yourself/family/property...
 
When I look for cars now, I try and look for less popular cars, due to the amount of theft. Would not touch range rovers, or Ford anything
 
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keef247 said:
Fitting a ghost immobiliser is a very dangerous idea, as thieves will then break into your house and attack you/take you hostage for the secret combination along with taking the key - which has happened many times for people.
Very stupid to recommend this!
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Do you work for a competitor? ;)
 
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It was when they implemented that. Then decided it would be one of the few things which didn't increase with inflation. Though the tax attached to it does OFC.
 
MrRockliffe said:
Ultimately depends how much the thieves want the car.


Some may find the added effort not worth it. Some may.



Personally I’d have one on a high value car.
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So you'd run the risk of people being whiling to break into your house and wake you up with a knife to you/your kids/wifes throat? All for a car probably bought on finance/leased, that can easily be replaced via insurance?
And the risk of being done for defending yourself etc thanks to UK law?
 
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