Ruri Blue Evo 9 FQ320* (*and a little more now)

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So I think some of you will have seen me post this elsewhere as a snapshot etc but its turned into a little more of a project than I expected so throwing up a thread on it incase it's of interest plus generally good to have one to look back on :)

Was fortunate to actually win this car from Dream Car Giveaways for £9.99 (ignoring how many £9.99s I spent on tickets that didn't win :D) Won it on the evening of Dec 1st last year (2023) and chomping at the bit I went to collect it on the morning of Dec 3rd.

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Full spec is;

56,000 Miles, with a bare metal restoration carried out by RG Motorsport - genuinely crazy how clean the car is, I'll dig out and upload some underside photos shortly.

Fully Rebuilt Engine - 2.0 Long Rod, 1400hd Wiesco 85.5 Pistons, 156mm Oliver I-Beams, Manley Springs & Retainers, GSC S2 Cams, ARP Main Studs & Head Studs, ACL Bearings, Tubular Manifold, S205b Turbo, ETS 3" Intercooler, 3" Intake Pipe / K&N, 3" Russ Fellows Exhaust System
Been swapped to a 5 Speed Gearbox as they're stronger than the 6 Speed.
Link G4 Ecu
Cusco Power Brace, Superpro 24mm Rear ARB, Meister R ZetaPro Coilovers
Water Methanol injection fitted
Lots of Xtreme Carbon external bits
Work ZR10 Alloys
And at the time of winning was producing 480bhp on low boost and 552bhp on high boost.
Enjoyed it through December on the odd days they didn't salt the roads and took it on a run along the south coast to my parents for Christmas.

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Fast forward to mid Jan and the S205B turbo decided it no longer wanted to be part of the world, broken down in a woods from 2pm-8pm when it got dark at 5pm was not the nicest experience
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Used a 50p coin to get the intake off and the turbo had an absolute huge amount of play in it and had obviously rubbed the turbine against the housing so no choice but to phone the AA. Who in turn refused to send a recovery truck until after their roadside chap had a look, spoke to him on the phone and he agreed it was daft but sadly everything is GPS logged so he wasn't able to mark it as unrepairable at the roadside until he actually got there. Let me sit in the van with my dog for 30 mins to warm up at least.

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Sure enough turbo well and truely goosed

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Got the turbo off and took it to Turbo Technics for inspection, diagnosed as overspeed. It's on the limit of what the turbo can handle really and was 9 years old having been on the car for about 5-7 years or so. As it was completely goosed with nothing reusable on it I ordered a replacement S205B (like for like) turbo from Turbo Technics, that arrived just before I went on holiday. Went on my holiday, got back and lost my job (great timing
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) which gave me time at least to fit the new turbo with all new hardware etc.

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Had a great shakedown run out all good, about 50 miles in total (with stops to check on everything etc) then took it on a second post-fix run out to the Cotswolds, again great fun had and always cracks me up how much love these old things get. Many conversations had with old and young alike :)

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However on the run back home the car had a huge hesitation when I was overtaking someone and found no boost. Limped it the final couple of miles home and sure enough turbo was goosed once more. Got it straight off and drove it back up to Turbo Technics, complete with the Circlip that was hanging out of the oil drain :/ This time the failure was diagnosed as oil starvation, no warranty cover or anything like that so they sent me an quote for yet another brand new turbo at more or less full price after a lot of effort to try and get some goodwill contribution from them.

Engine seemed fine but obviously will need to give it another complete look over. Oil level was at the minimum (having filled it to max) and the difference between min and max was sat in the catch can presumably having been pushed there by boost pressure when the turbo let go. That was a little bit of a shock when draining the little bit of water out of the catch tank and suddenly dumped a load of oil on my driveway (oops!)

Threw my toys out the pram a little with the lack of support from Turbo Technics so I ordered a Precision Turbo PT5858 Ball Bearing full turbo kit from Ross Sport that should actually be a decent power boost but more importantly gets me away from the fragile S205B turbos. Could have gone much bigger on the turbo but I want a good usable powerband not a 1/4 mile monster.

PT5858 Kit was delivered and the manifold is a complete work of art from JMF;

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Got it all assembled (and I won't mention the V Band clamp I snapped *cough*)

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And started fitting it

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And that's where we're up to so far. I had a delivery earlier today of some extra hoses I was waiting for (oil drain & connection between turbo and IC pipework) so will crack on if/when I get a break in the rain :D
 
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Had about 5-7 friends, work colleagues etc win cars, bikes, money etc with DCG but never been lucky enough myself and all of them have talked about how well they were treated by DCG with any "post win" issues, did you speak to them after the turbo let go at all? I'm frankly quite surprised by TurboTechnics attitude though, they've been really good in the past but I haven't used them in about 15 years I guess so I've no idea whats happened to them since for them to act like that.

TBH, after being told about the condition of that first S205B turbo, I just wouldn't have used another one even though it was the quickest/easiest way to get the car back running but thats all 20/20 hindsight I suppose, but that new PT turbo looks very nice and the quality of the two different manifolds looks to be worlds apart!

As a quick question - Do you know the make of the Water/Meth kit that's fitted and are you buying pre-mix fluid or making your own?
 
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I won £12k on dream car giveaways, so pleased to see another winner on here.

As got turbo technics, don't get me started. Had a massive argument with them beginning of this year. Not what they used to be!
 
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Lovely car OP and an interesting read, thank you. Nearly bought an Evo 7 last year but got scared last minute that things would go wrong given the age of them.
 
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Lovely car OP and an interesting read, thank you. Nearly bought an Evo 7 last year but got scared last minute that things would go wrong given the age of them.

The drivetribe channel on youtube bought a £25,000 Evo that looked in very good condition.

Not long after they were making a video called

EXPENSIVE Problems Found With Our Evo VIII FQ300​

 
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The drivetribe channel on youtube bought a £25,000 Evo that looked in very good condition.

Not long after they were making a video called

EXPENSIVE Problems Found With Our Evo VIII FQ300​

Not surprised, I bet a lot of cars of this sort and of that age will have or will soon have something wrong. The 1 I nearly bought I was put off because the seller said zero rust but there it was, only a little bit, but still there, around the front suspension turrets. Said nope there and then and got the train home, good job I bought a return. The experience re-inforced my fears on old sports car and I bought a Golf R instead.
 
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Beauty! We need some videos of it in action tho. :D

Definitely intend to sort that out :D The old turbo made some amazing turbo sounds hoping the new one will too lol. To date the only videos I have of it have my friend giggling her head off though them :D

I won £12k on dream car giveaways, so pleased to see another winner on here.

As got turbo technics, don't get me started. Had a massive argument with them beginning of this year. Not what they used to be!
Had about 5-7 friends, work colleagues etc win cars, bikes, money etc with DCG but never been lucky enough myself and all of them have talked about how well they were treated by DCG with any "post win" issues, did you speak to them after the turbo let go at all? I'm frankly quite surprised by TurboTechnics attitude though, they've been really good in the past but I haven't used them in about 15 years I guess so I've no idea whats happened to them since for them to act like that.

TBH, after being told about the condition of that first S205B turbo, I just wouldn't have used another one even though it was the quickest/easiest way to get the car back running but thats all 20/20 hindsight I suppose, but that new PT turbo looks very nice and the quality of the two different manifolds looks to be worlds apart!

As a quick question - Do you know the make of the Water/Meth kit that's fitted and are you buying pre-mix fluid or making your own?

I've dealt with TurboTechnics multiple times over the years and I'd go as far as to say I was shocked how bad they were with support on this occasion. Used them loads in the past without hesitation, not sure I would at all in future now though.

The Water/Meth kit is all AEM stuff, running 50/50 mix. Has a 5 gallon tank in the boot which was full when I got the car so not something I've had to mess about with myself just yet.

Elephant in the room though, this is actually the second Evo I've won from DCG (I know the odds must be crazy, although I did spend rather a lot with them especially when an Evo comes up) - I first won an Evo 9 GT from them early 2022 I think it was. Ran it for 9 months or so before man maths suggested I could sell that & the Ferrari 360 I had at the time for a McLaren 650S. Actually sold that Evo back to DCG and regretted it so a little ironic to win another. If I'm honest I contemplated asking DCG if they would contribute towards new turbo but decided against it, the car was running great for the 6 weeks before the turbo lunched itself. Sadly just old turbo tech at the limit of what it can handle I think.

Regarding the Turbo & Previous owner, honestly I don't think the previous owner would have sold it with a rough turbo, wasn't the type to penny pinch as attested by the huge stack of receipts I have with the car and all the work he'd done on it.

Odd Autos did do a couple of videos on my Evo when DCG first bought it though;



The drivetribe channel on youtube bought a £25,000 Evo that looked in very good condition.

Not long after they were making a video called

EXPENSIVE Problems Found With Our Evo VIII FQ300​


RE the Drivetribe Evo, sadly unless you buy one that's been completely overhauled it's pretty likely it will need to be. Mines on 58k miles from memory and as mentioned had a bare shell restoration done by RG Motorsport with stacks of new parts from Mitsubishi building it back up. They paid not too far off the entry point of market money for theirs (albeit they can sometimes be had for high teens if in very rough shape) so wasn't too surprised to hear about the issues. I believe DCG paid c. £40k when they bought this one to raffle. My last Evo 9 was equally as clean underneath but not as modified and sold that for £35k

Pics from the underside refresh in 2021 I think it was. Just as clean underneath now :)

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The Water/Meth kit is all AEM stuff, running 50/50 mix. Has a 5 gallon tank in the boot which was full when I got the car so not something I've had to mess about with myself just yet.

I'm running an Aquamist HFS V4 water/meth kit with a 1.25 gallon (5L-ish) tank and I use Devils Own pre-mix 50/50 fluid "by weight" (see spoiler) which cost about £55 for 20L inc shipping and the the only pre-mix I can find in the UK.

You can try to mix your own fluid but be aware that 50/50 "by weight" or 50/50 "by volume" will give you different ratio of Meth to Water due to the different weights for the same amount of individual liquid i.e. Water (1L=1Kg) vs Methanol (1L = 0.8Kg) - so 50/50 "by volume" is in reality about 60/40 water/meth whereas as "by weight" is a perfect 50/50 but you've added more meth than water (why does it have to be so complex :D)

Anyway, that 5L tank and its 2 spray nozzles (one per bank on the V10) only gets used at WOT for and so it lasts me about 2-3 months meaning your 5 gallons, depending on the heft of your right foot, should last a while I would guess!
 
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I'm running an Aquamist HFS V4 water/meth kit with a 1.25 gallon (5L-ish) tank and I use Devils Own pre-mix 50/50 fluid "by weight" (see spoiler) which cost about £55 for 20L inc shipping and the the only pre-mix I can find in the UK.

You can try to mix your own fluid but be aware that 50/50 "by weight" or 50/50 "by volume" will give you different ratio of Meth to Water due to the different weights for the same amount of individual liquid i.e. Water (1L=1Kg) vs Methanol (1L = 0.8Kg) - so 50/50 "by volume" is in reality about 60/40 water/meth whereas as "by weight" is a perfect 50/50 but you've added more meth than water (why does it have to be so complex :D)

Anyway, that 5L tank and its 2 spray nozzles (one per bank on the V10) only gets used at WOT for and so it lasts me about 2-3 months meaning your 5 gallons, depending on the heft of your right foot, should last a while I would guess!

Appreciate that - may have to reach out to bend your ear a little more about the meth setup in that case :) I know my setup is just a single nozzle & I've been told by previous owner it uses it a fair bit in High boost or when antilag is switched on, uses it a tiny bit in low boost at WOT. I think the trigger is throttle position and boost pressure but could be wrong. My intention when it goes in for mapping is to see if low boost can run with no water meth (like the idea of having a backup incase of any issues etc) and High boost taking whatever it needs.

Good to know about the Devils Own, that was the one I was planning to use to top mine up before sending it off for mapping. The previous owner I believe used to buy meth on eBay and self mix but I prefer the idea of minimal handling of the stuff if I'm honest.
 
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Apologies for the mixup and second thread, honestly thought I hadn't posted here yet outside of show us your motors etc; lifes been a little crazy the past few months and I've been all over the shop :)

So here's the nothing that has actually happened since I last posted........

It went downhill from the last update really. I got the turbo kit fitted and ran the car at idle and realised the catch can I'd emptied previously was filling up fast with oil from the engine and sure enough it seemed to be breathing heavily. Balls.

Decided caution to the wind I'd book it in with RG Motorsport to check it all over and had to wait a number of weeks for him to have space in the diary to tackle the car for me. The time came last week when the car went off to RG. Loaded into the trailer and hopefully last time I'll see the car while it has issues :D

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Sure enough Rich at RG messaged to say it was a little low on compression and that combined with the heavy breathing decided a new set of rings would be the course of action. He reckons the ring seals butted against each other and scored the bore a little as a result. He honed the bores and cleaned everything up. Insides look great now, much better than the before pics anyway!

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And that's where we're up to as of Friday. The speed Rich at RG Motorsport has been turning this around I don't expect it'll take much longer and we'll be back up and running etc. Then as I understand it it'll just be a case of waiting for a timeslot on the dyno for Rich to map it all for the new turbo... not going to lie I'm really excited to see where that gets the car up to!
 
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Nice, I remember seeing this on DCG. I buy a few tickets for different things every week, no wins as yet :)

I've got a PT5858 on my 2.3L 9GT. Goes well :D

Nice! What sort of power are you making on that? I had people trying to convince me to go full stroker on the rebuild but it's a relatively straight forward rebuild as it is and I'm currently still burning through savings so reduced bill is the aim for now anyway :D

Hoping with the meth to get up to 600-650ish but realistically I don't want to chase numbers, would just like to see some improvement from where it was to justify all the cash I've thrown at the new turbo setup :D
 
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Nice! What sort of power are you making on that? I had people trying to convince me to go full stroker on the rebuild but it's a relatively straight forward rebuild as it is and I'm currently still burning through savings so reduced bill is the aim for now anyway :D

Hoping with the meth to get up to 600-650ish but realistically I don't want to chase numbers, would just like to see some improvement from where it was to justify all the cash I've thrown at the new turbo setup :D

562hp at 2bar - I'm not fussed on figures. If anything I prefer small punchy turbo to laggy dustbin lid

Engine has stock cams. I keep looking at changing the cams but they seem to move the rev range higher. The 2.3 is honestly, a bit lazy. I have an Impreza on a VF400 (Hybrid VF35 I think) and there's a whisker of lag and she's off at 407hp. The Evo is later and although pulls harder and longer, it's initially not as punchy as the Impreza.

Mine also has the 5 speed but 3rd and 4th are from a GSR so there isn't that gap between 4th and 5th. The 5th in the Evo is taller than the 6th in the Impreza :)

I did ask about meth and I can't remember why it wasn't fitted.
 
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562hp at 2bar - I'm not fussed on figures. If anything I prefer small punchy turbo to laggy dustbin lid

Engine has stock cams. I keep looking at changing the cams but they seem to move the rev range higher. The 2.3 is honestly, a bit lazy. I have an Impreza on a VF400 (Hybrid VF35 I think) and there's a whisker of lag and she's off at 407hp. The Evo is later and although pulls harder and longer, it's initially not as punchy as the Impreza.

Mine also has the 5 speed but 3rd and 4th are from a GSR so there isn't that gap between 4th and 5th. The 5th in the Evo is taller than the 6th in the Impreza :)

I did ask about meth and I can't remember why it wasn't fitted.

That's fair. Same reason I didn't go PT6262 despite everyone trying to convince me to :)

My old 9 GT was 400/400 and a great level to be fair. Cams make a huge difference apparently but I'm outside of my core knowledge at that point. I'm hoping the 5858 will give a decent balance of response and power. Meth is apparently worth a fair bit of power (S205B limit is said to be ~500bhp and mine was running 552bhp on the same boost level).

In reality the 550bhp was plenty and I'm not chasing the highest possible numbers or anything, I just want to justify the £4k of bigger turbo kit by returning slightly improved figures (or at least an improvement in the power/torque curves) Plus would be cool to compare to the McLaren if they did end up at similar levels.

I've absolutely stacks of paperwork, I know some work was done on the gearbox but not entirely sure what, always feels like it's a bit too short but I guess that's a byproduct of the power and the fact these aren't really motorway cruisers :D
 
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This was my cars' final run. Just so you get an idea. I was lucky, the turbo is a ND kit but the lad I bought it from never fitted it. He sold the car before fitting and I picked it up on the way to where the engine was being rebuilt (EngineTuner)

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What rear diff is the Ruri 9? Is it a RS/GT diff? I ask because I had my transmission rebuilt and had 6 plates put in either side - rather than the stock 5. The diff was really loud at first - if it sounds broken, it's working :D and I've put some modifier in to quiet it down. However, now it feels really "on the nose" like twitchy - I'm not sure it was that twitchy before. The Impreza pivots more in the centre where you're sat, it feels dull in comparison but safer to push on with.
 
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This was my cars' final run. Just so you get an idea. I was lucky, the turbo is a ND kit but the lad I bought it from never fitted it. He sold the car before fitting and I picked it up on the way to where the engine was being rebuilt (EngineTuner)

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What rear diff is the Ruri 9? Is it a RS/GT diff? I ask because I had my transmission rebuilt and had 6 plates put in either side - rather than the stock 5. The diff was really loud at first - if it sounds broken, it's working :D and I've put some modifier in to quiet it down. However, now it feels really "on the nose" like twitchy - I'm not sure it was that twitchy before. The Impreza pivots more in the centre where you're sat, it feels dull in comparison but safer to push on with.

That feels like a good power curve to be fair!

No idea on the diff in my car, unsure if with everything else being done and the 5 speed conversion that would have been tackled too. I'm trying to balance bugging the previous owner for details with not being a complete pain in his ass :D Got so many receipts should really sit down and go through them all properly someday, have flicked through but theres literally so much paperwork with the car - 80% of it receipts from RossSport too.

I've heard back from RG Motorsport who were rebuilding it, car sounds like its good to go pending a running in map being put on it. Then I need to go down and do 200-300 miles, luckily I have family on the south coast so will collect it, go see them and drive along the south coast somewhere to cover the running in miles. Then it'll be back to RG Motorsport (pending dyno availability) to have the proper mapping done :) Only pic I've been sent atm although I've seen another on his instagram stories where it's far more back together :D New air filter is hilariously large.

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